EU wins nobel peace prize

Cosimo · 12 Oct 2012 at 12:42

You can have my ticket to the prize giving.

[TW]Fox · 12 Oct 2012 at 12:47

simulatorman said:
You can have my ticket to the prize giving.

Is this another generic random simulatorman one-liner or do you actually have a ticket to the Nobel prize giving? :eek:

Jokester · 12 Oct 2012 at 12:48

Sod medals, I want my share of the cash prize!

Russinating · 12 Oct 2012 at 12:57

Are people missing the point? It's for work over the past 6 decades, not just in your lifetime/memory.

Mr Jagland highlighted the EU's work in sealing the reconciliation between France and Germany in the decades after World War II.

I don't think anyone can really argue against that.

Energizer Bunny · 12 Oct 2012 at 12:59

Congratulations you guys.

WE DID IT BABY

Duke · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:01

[TW]Fox;22946266 said:
Is this another generic random simulatorman one-liner or do you actually have a ticket to the Nobel prize giving?

A lot of one liners - gotta reply to every thread syndrome

Strife212 · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:06

Russinating said:
Are people missing the point? It's for work over the past 6 decades, not just in your lifetime/memory.

I don't think anyone can really argue against that.

EU hasn't even existed for 6 decades though. Clearly the EU has created closer ties but equally any suggestion that Europe would be at war without it is ridiculous.

sanaxe1 · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:23

Does this mean i can put that I am a Nobel peace prize winner on my CV?

sanaxe1 · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:25

Strife212 said:
EU hasn't even existed for 6 decades though. Clearly the EU has created closer ties but equally any suggestion that Europe would be at war without it is ridiculous.

Europe has been at war with its self since for the last few thousand years. Why would it be ridiculous to think that without the EU Europe would be at war?

Strife212 · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:27

Because it's a different era, may as well say NATO is stopping us invading each other.

The Dread Pirate · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:35

oulton said:
Where has the ****ing integrity gone!!!!!

Where did all the Good people Go-oooh!

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:36

Russinating said:
Are people missing the point? It's for work over the past 6 decades, not just in your lifetime/memory.

I don't think anyone can really argue against that.

Well they can because the European Union didn't even exist for much of that period. Reconciliation between France and Germany, in fact between any of the Axis powers in Europe and the Allied ones was done by various Governments and individuals and more notably by the agreements and conventions such as the Bonn-Paris Convention (note that it was NATO and the British Govenment that eventually got the French to agree rather than any precursor to the EU) not to mention just a general pervasive desire amongst the population to stop wars in Europe. Peace in Europe is due a complex and multi faceted range of things and is certainly not attributable to the European Union, specifically because the EU is one of products of increased stability and closer Union resulting from the extended peace, it is not one of the causes.

Essentially the EU is not responsible for Peace in Europe, it is one of the products of Peace in Europe.

Tute · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:40

Jokester said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19921072

Must be bad times, if to win a peace award, all you have to do is not go to war with anyone for a bit.

Or not have a clue how to do your job, despite sitting around pushing pens and raking huge salaries in.

Honestly, if there ever was an indication that the NPP is an utter joke, this is it.

Judgeneo · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:41

The peace prize is a joke nowadays, there simply aren't enough figures worthy of it each year.

I think they should cancel awarding it yearly, and only award it when an individual has truly done outstanding work. Some of the worlds most prestigious awards work this way already, such as the field medal in mathematics.

Castiel · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:44

Judgeneo said:
The peace prize is a joke nowadays, there simply aren't enough figures worthy of it each year.

I think they should cancel awarding it yearly, and only award it when an individual has truly done outstanding work. Some of the worlds most prestigious awards work this way already, such as the field medal in mathematics.

Precisely what I mentioned earlier....a prize such as this should reflect the contribution of the recipient, if there are no suitable recipients who have given a valid and justifiable contribution then the prize should lie dormant until there is. This would garner far more value and hopefully invest more interest in such pursuits.

Liampope · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:52

Ah man sucks to live in Norway right now

Gonna be no nobel prize street parties happening over here I guess! Is there some sort of 'nobel peace prize 2012 gold medal winner' logo I can print out and stick up by my desk at work next to my picture of the Queen and the one of the gold post box in my home town complete with olympics medal results table with 1st and 2nd place cut off? Would be awesome.

gillywibble · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:54

Jokester said:
Sod medals, I want my share of the cash prize!

Account number and sort code?

steve-h · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:55

Didn't Obama win it last time? Is it not just one big publicity/propaganda stunt?

Fire_fly · 12 Oct 2012 at 13:56

Castiel said:
Precisely what I mentioned earlier....a prize such as this should reflect the contribution of the recipient, if there are no suitable recipients who have given a valid and justifiable contribution then the prize should lie dormant until there is. This would garner far more value and hopefully invest more interest in such pursuits.

It is not like they had to award the prize either. Since the first Nobel Peace Prize was awarded in 1901 there have been, by my count, 19 years where no prize has been awarded with the most recent being in 1972.

I agree with you, poorly awarding the prize detracts from its overall value and the work that previous recipients have done.

Destination · 12 Oct 2012 at 14:02

Castiel said:
Precisely what I mentioned earlier....a prize such as this should reflect the contribution of the recipient, if there are no suitable recipients who have given a valid and justifiable contribution then the prize should lie dormant until there is. This would garner far more value and hopefully invest more interest in such pursuits.

I agree with you Castiel.

Could have gave it to the people of Southern Sudan for establishing their own elections, having them unrigged, following the result, establishing their own state, and not decending into complete civil war. But no, the EU needs it more.