Dog knifed.

contracteur · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:06

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216806/Mother-watches-horror-American-Bulldog-stabbed-23-times-irate-pet-owner-fight-dog.html?ICO=most_read_module

Apologies for the DM link. When I started reading this all I could think of was "who could do such an awful thing?", however as you read you can sort of understand why the guy did what he did.

There's 2 sides and all that, but let me ask you, ladies and gents, would you have done the same if your dog/cat was being attacked?

One · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:12

I've kicked a dog in the ribs before when it started to attack my own dog only to get the owner having a go at me. Dogs like the one that the woman owns are a menace to society when they are owned by people like that woman. A dog that attacks small things shouldn't be let of the lead, it's bad ownership. I know it gets used a lot but 'what if it was a child'; if it was I don't suppose anyone would have a problem with the dog being knifed.

Something Else · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:12

judging by the reactions of the locals id say the woman had it coming. seems she let her dog run riot because she either couldnt or wouldnt control the dog.

if somone messes with your family you do what you have to, to protect them. same applies for pets, they are family

PwnDirect · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:13

Messed up!

but i can raise you! dog set on fire

lflowers · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:17

The woman should not of had that dog of its lead. If the dog that was attacked had been child what would have happened then? People like her should not be allowed dogs like that as they are a danger to society.

Flare · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:18

It is very sad but it is clear that dog was out of control and a danger that should definitely not be around other dogs let alone be "allowed to run around the estate with no lead". Don't get me wrong, I hate cruelty to animals and I have grown up with & have two dogs but when a vicious dog is attacking your dog it is horrible. I have had to kick a dog off one of mine before and that wasn't even a dog that is as powerfull as an American bulldog. A fight between a 42kg bulldog & a small terrier would generally only ever end with the terrier being killed. I would imagine that even whilst getting stabbed it kept tight hold at first hence being stabbed 23 times.

Very sad but if the owner had let the bulldog kill his smaller dog, the bulldog would have been put town anway.

steve45 · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:19

desires said:
I've kicked a dog in the ribs before when it started to attack my own dog only to get the owner having a go at me. Dogs like the one that the woman owns are a menace to society when they are owned by people like that woman. A dog that attacks small things shouldn't be let of the lead, it's bad ownership.

a good number of years ago my (now passed away)dog was attacked by a local dog that was off the lead(owner close behind), she refused to do anything so i did the same, and the attacking dog got 2 swift boots in the ribs which stopped it attacking my dog, i hold no remorse, similar to this situation this dog is well known locally for being trouble(as well as the owner), knifing it may be a little harsh but i can understand the frustration.

One · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:22

From what I understand of the article the man knifed the attacking dog while his dog's head was still in the attacker's mouth. If kicking and punching didn't work then what is the next course of action? Watch your dog die?

bhavv · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:22

The same should have happened to an old border collie that kept trying to 'herd' me every time I walked to school as a kid, and it was never tied to a leash.

Unfortunately it didnt, so I had a lot of nightmares and torment.

Pawnless Endgame · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:23

Both were wrong in some respect. The lady's disregard for the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, and inappropriate weapon used by the guy. Baseball bat would have been better, so that it kept the dog at bay without fatality. However, it was spur of the moment for the guy and he probably just fetched the first weapon that he found.

Glaucus · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:23

Stupid owner, she should be banned from owning dogs, just becuase she's lost the dog, should not make her immune from penalties.

Monserrat said:
Both were wrong in some respect. The lady's disregard for the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, and inappropriate weapon used by the guy. Baseball bat would have been better, so that it kept the dog at bay without fatality. However, it was spur of the moment for the guy and he probably just fetched the first weapon that he found.

What!!!!

Howmmany people own a baseball bat, or any bat for that matter. How do you keep it at bay, when its allready got your dogs head in its mouth.

One · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:24

Monserrat said:
Both were wrong in some respect. The lady's disregard for the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, and inappropriate weapon used by the guy. Baseball bat would have been better, so that it kept the dog at bay without fatality. However, it was spur of the moment for the guy and he probably just fetched the first weapon that he found.

I don't own a baseball bat.

Flare · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:27

Monserrat said:
Both were wrong in some respect. The lady's disregard for the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, and inappropriate weapon used by the guy. Baseball bat would have been better, so that it kept the dog at bay without fatality. However, it was spur of the moment for the guy and he probably just fetched the first weapon that he found.

I think it is pretty clear that it was past the point of keeping the dog at bay when he got the knifes. The problem with dogs like that is that once they lock their jaws on to something it is very difficult to get them off, it's basic a hunting instinct/technique.

Glaucus said:
What!!!!

Howmmany people own a baseball bat, or any bat for that matter. How do you keep it at bay, when its allready got your dogs head in its mouth.

+1

Rainmaker · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:33

I think it's important not to confuse dog aggression with human aggression. That said this is a very sad story for all concerned. There are questions raised, such as if it was such a sustained and horrific attack how he waited 'five minutes' for the owner to turn up before going for knives. His little dog was in the other dog's mouth for five minutes with nothing more than superficial harm, but it necessitated stabbing the other dog 23 times? Really?

To be fair shock likely played a role here, and time perception was distorted.

The look of horror and abject devastation on the owner's face is plain to see, and in one sense I really feel for her. However the fact remains that ABs are incredibly loyal, strong, dominant and powerful dogs and need an owner capable of directing and controlling that. It sounds very much as though this lady had no such qualities and the dog suffered as a result. If things are as described it's exceedingly difficult to blame the gentleman concerned, and the lady needs to learn about responsible dog ownership and perhaps stick to a breed more within her capabilities.

A sad case indeed, regardless.

Energize · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:34

Can't believe he was arrested really for such blatant self defense, just lucky he wasn't charged by the nanny state for knife possession or some other victimless crime. He had a lucky escape from both the dog and the courts this time.

bhavv · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:36

Energize said:
Can't believe he was arrested really for such blatant self defense, just lucky he wasn't charged by the nanny state for knife possession or some other victimless crime. He had a lucky escape from both the dog and the courts this time.

A) 1 lady crying her eyes out next to her dead dog.
B) 1 man standing nearby with a bloody knife / blood stained clothes.

Who do you expect the police to arrest? Clue, it isnt A.

Lightnix · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:39

Lucky that dog didn't go for a child to be honest.

Energize · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:41

bhavv said:
A) 1 lady crying her eyes out next to her dead dog.
B) 1 man standing nearby with a bloody knife / blood stained clothes.

Who do you expect the police to arrest? Clue, it isnt A.

No one without questioning, he could have just saved the woman from being killed by said dog.

Lightnix said:
Lucky that dog didn't go for a child to be honest.

It probably wouldn't have. There's a huge difference between dog and human directed aggression.

Antony101 · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:42

If someone's dog did it to my dog and it was not my dog that was in the wrong? Well I wear my steel toed work boots when walking my dog so I don't ruin my trainers and I'd have a good go at kicking it in the ribs. It is not just the dog that is in danger, if you attempt to get the dog free without using force then you are going to get yourself hurt.

Without a doubt would have done the same, and lot's of people would agree.

Antony101 · 13 Oct 2012 at 01:43

Energize said:
No one without questioning, he could have just saved the woman from being killed by said dog.

It probably wouldn't have. There's a huge difference between dog and human directed aggression.

I quote "He’s attacked loads of dogs on this estate and he’s even gone for a kid outside the Budgens up the road."