The source is the ons study entitled 'effect of taxation and benefit on household income' and England does not have a similar percentage, the English rate is in the 45% range, still not great given that it is a net taxation (eg taxation in vs benefits out) figure, but nowhere near as bad as north of the border... and of course it gets worse when you factor in that state paid workers don't contribute at all to the tax take due to the recycling of money...
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The source is the ons study entitled 'effect of taxation and benefit on household income' and England does not have a similar percentage, the English rate is in the 45% range, still not great given that it is a net taxation (eg taxation in vs benefits out) figure, but nowhere near as bad as north of the border... and of course it gets worse when you factor in that state paid workers don't contribute at all to the tax take due to the recycling of money...
The way the figures were derived missed out non identifiable taxation, but included the spending.. but even using that then yes they are the same. He's out of his depth with this anyway.
The figures are for all intents identical, Westminster Tories were calling Davidsons remarks "unfortunate".
Are you really shooting off into the loony bin with her?
Answer very carefully.
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I'm just in here chatting ***** mate. My war had no class
Anyway I don't have much myself but I want to support myself is all.
Ah but rUK is not a member state, it belongs to a member state....rUK isn't a State and therefore if it became independent it would effectively be a New State with Scotland being the successor state as it was the state to begin with.
Hows that for a re-write? Because that ******** cuts both ways, and there is no supremacy at all to be had.
Partnership of equals, written in blood, read it and weep.
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Not true. Scotland is having a vote to leave a member state. I won't be voting for any change .
I'm just in here chatting ***** mate. My war had no class
Anyway I don't have much myself but I want to support myself is all.
Right ok, but remember even the poor and even the scum have aspirations. Others might not even recognise them as aspirations, but they are there and should not disregarded or ridiculed just because of their misfortune.
Scotland does not 'belong' to the United Kingdom. Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom.
The EU defines the UK as:
If Scotland leaves, then the definition of the "United Kingdom" that is a member of the EU does not exist anymore, so wouldnt rUK be in the same situation as Scotland?
I know it's not true for heavens sake, it's a **** take.
It doesn't matter who votes to leave, they both have the same equal status now and then and through out.
Yes you are correct.
As I posted above though, Scotland joined the Union out of necessity, for the good and prosperity of its people. Leaving the union is IT'S choice. The consequences of this should be levied by Scotland therefore. No one is asking them to leave.
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That's a complete assumption. And one that I believe is completely wrong. The UK will still exist a it dose now, albeit without Scotland. Scotlands status however is far from assured. If only because the eu will want to get what it wants from Scotland
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In your opinion - something I don't really care for seeing as you make posts like
Eurgh. You see, people would normally give the benefit of the doubt and consider ones points and maybe even alter their own as a result. But when you post carp like this other readers just think "dick", and disregard anything else you have to add. It's clearly all about one-up-manship and that chip right there with you. How old are you seriously? You come across as angsty teen to me.
i have a question, will all uk citizens be granted scotish citizenship and will all scotish citizens retain thier uk citizenship?
otherwise wont this cause a lot of problems with amny people becoming immigrants overnight?
lso whats going to happen with regards to tax?
say scotland raises taxes a bit wont people be able to live in england and claim non dom or sotmhing similar?
otherwise wont this cause a lot of problems with amny people becoming immigrants overnight?
lso whats going to happen with regards to tax?
say scotland raises taxes a bit wont people be able to live in england and claim non dom or sotmhing similar?
Yet it would be of greater concern for an independent Scotland. A Scottish government would have to choose between higher taxes and cuts in public services. This wouldn't be received well, and undoubtedly Scottish ministers will blame all this on failings of the union
I'm not sure why you think there would be such a difference, Scotland pays for everything it has and recieves now... why would that be any different tomorrow?
Scotland can afford to sustain itself as it is, but it could be better without Westminster economic control.
There is no current overspend, we would afford defence like how we afford it now. Except we wouldn't get shortchanged.
I'm happy to be globally impotent, Britannia rules bugger all except illegal wars so troop on Captain Planet.
Oh yes I could, it served sections far better than others and certainly has had issues.
It didn't bankrupt Scotland actually. And the Act of Union was signed with armies amassed in England and Ireland if Scotland didn't sign... did you know that?
Not invaded... but only by the skin of its teeth.
No, I don't think you understand the history or modern day Scotland if you are trying to draw a comparison to today, and now.
"Educate" me. Or am I to expect yet more dross?
No, no UK citizenship as we know it.
Scottish and rUK. But, if you live in Scotland at the time irrespective of where you come from you will be granted citizenship.
There will be seperate tax jurisictions yes.
It's already started with Revenue Scotland in certain respects.
I'm confused by your logic.Scotland is an economic basket case, and if I argue otherwise it is automatically dross?
If Scotland is such a drain on the UK, why do you want it to remain?