Windows 8 who's buying/upgrading

I was going to upgrade my laptop to win8 pro, but after reading about what is required on the processor for the installation to even go ahead I've decided not to waste the £50 I would be spending on the physical upgrade disc.
 
I was going to upgrade my laptop to win8 pro, but after reading about what is required on the processor for the installation to even go ahead I've decided not to waste the £50 I would be spending on the physical upgrade disc.
:confused: what are you talking about?
And it's available for £24.99
 
:confused: what are you talking about?
And it's available for £24.99

In the FAQ for the windows 8 release preview it states that the computer must support PAE, NX and SSE2 before the installation can take place (I'm assuming that the requirement would be the same).

PAE would be pretty much moot since the it's a 64-bit processor as would SSE2 (the processor in my desktop system supports that), but there's nothing that states that the processor supports NX even the specifications on the AMD website don't tell me anything.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-150-MS&groupid=33&catid=1555&subcat=

A physical copy costs £49.99
 
Why do you need a physical copy and windows8 will work on any modern CPU.

Edit-
Autally you maybe right, up you seem to have one of the few amd which don't support nx, def p320 you got?

Series AMD Athlon II
Codename Champlain
Clock Rate 2500 MHz
Front Side Bus 3200 MHz
Level 1 Cache 256 KB
Level 2 Cache 1024 KB
Number of Cores / Threads 2 / 2
Max. Power Consumption (TDP = Thermal Design Power) 35 Watt
Transistor Count 234 Million
Manufacturing Technology 45 nm
Die Size 117.5 mm2
Socket S1
Features DDR3-1066 memory controller, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, AMD64, Enhanced Virus Protection, Virtualization
64 Bit 64 Bit support
Hardware Virtualization AMD-V
Announcement Date 12/16/2010

So yeah, sorry you are right

CPU not compatible:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-preview/a2c11f2c-d43b-44fc-9bc0-61805a2d95ef
On the Microsoft Answers forum for Windows 8 Release Preview, a Microsoft employee provided reasons into the Company’s decision for requiring NX support in order to run Windows 8 going forward:
We did make changes in the upgrade detection logic since the CP. The changes revolve around the default installer and how it checks for precise CPU features before continuing. Windows 8 requires the NX capabilities of modern CPUs. This is done for security reasons to ensure that malware defense features work reliably. This is important as we want to ensure that people can feel safe using lots of different software including desktop apps and apps from the Windows Store. This means some very old CPUs will not work with Windows 8. In the CP we did not block the installer for the NX feature. Based on CP telemetry we felt adding the block to setup was warranted to respect people’s time. It is better to get it over with quickly, even if it is disappointing. We also used the telemetry to get some handle on how many CPUs would fail the NX requirement so we could be sure enforcing NX presence was responsible in the ecosystem. We learned that less than 1% of CPUs did not have NX capability available and configured correctly and out of those 0.1% did not have the NX capability at all. Based on this we feel that enforcing NX presence is a good thing to do since it results in better malware defenses. Thus we now enforce NX presence in the kernel boot sequence.
It is interesting to look at the case where NX is available but not configured correctly. It is possible on “most CPUs” in this state to override the BIOS setting in software. Because the “opposite of most CPUs” case means a code 5D bluescreen later on, it saves time to get it out up front and ask the user to fix the BIOS setting during setup. However, the “most CPUs” case does mean there is a potential workaround, which I’ll describe in a moment.
We didn’t make any change related to PAE detection, but it is good to note that PAE is a pre-requisite for NX on 32 bit processors due to how NX is implemented in memory manager page tables.
We did change SSE2 instruction set detection based on telemetry from the CP and Windows 7. SSE2 became standard on CPUs a long time ago, but Windows did not rely on those instructions. It turns out though, that an increasing number of 3 party applications and drivers have started using those instructions, and not checking for them before use. We get to see this in our telemetry, as application crashes and in- the- driver case bluescreens. Taking into account that the rate of these differences in 3 party programming is increasing -- and that SSE2 has been present on all CPUs since 2003 and most since 2001-- we decided to check for SSE2 in setup. The result for users at large is their PC is more reliable. We do not check for SSE2 in the kernel boot sequence,;however, if your CPU has NX it also almost certainly has SSE2.
Before I provide the potential workaround, if you can, please properly configure NX in your BIOS.
Here is the potential workaround: Download the ISO and burn it to a DVD or create a bootable USB flash drive. Boot from the media that you created. If your CPU does not support NX you will see a code 5D bluescreen before setup starts. This is rare, but if it happens we won’t be able to help you run Windows 8.
This workaround may succeed because Windows contains two installers: the end user installer (setup.exe at the root of the Windows DVD) and the commercial installer (setup.exe found in the \sources directory of the Windows DVD). The commercial installer runs when the PC is booted from DVD/USB media and does not perform the NX/SSE2 checks and attempts to enable NX/SSE2 on supported systems.
 
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In the FAQ for the windows 8 release preview it states that the computer must support PAE, NX and SSE2 before the installation can take place (I'm assuming that the requirement would be the same).

PAE would be pretty much moot since the it's a 64-bit processor as would SSE2 (the processor in my desktop system supports that), but there's nothing that states that the processor supports NX even the specifications on the AMD website don't tell me anything.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SW-150-MS&groupid=33&catid=1555&subcat=

A physical copy costs £49.99

Lol...
It will work on any processor from the past 2 decades.
When I say any processor, well, you know what I mean...
 
Why do you need a. Physical copy and windows8 will work on any modern CPU.

Because that's the way I prefer it (and with my internet connection a 3GB file would take ages to download which might end up being an eternity if the server hosting the files is getting hammered at the time).

Edit: I've just read your edit and enhanced virus protection is the name AMD uses for NX, so windows 8 would install with no problems (although it's likely that the AMD athlon 64 X2 6000+ in my desktop doesn't support it).
 
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Download manager, and a day or two to save £25. And in all likelihood a n hour or so.

Although you are correct you can't run win8 anyway.
They changed it fairly late on.

Out of interest is it a pre windows 7 machine?

Just found something saying any windows7 ready machine has have Nx and can run win8

Easy way to check, go into bios and see if you have NX or XD settings.
 
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Been running it for two days now ( free from MSDN site ) and it's okay, getting to grips wit the shortcuts and how to close apps and all. App wise, some are pretty good like Netflix and Kindle but the Ebay one doesn't seem right, much prefer the browser.
 
Download manager, and a day or two to save £25. And in all likelihood a n hour or so.

Although you are correct you can't run win8 anyway.
They changed it fairly late on.

Out of interest is it a pre windows 7 machine?

Just found something saying any windows7 ready machine has have Nx and can run win8

Easy way to check, go into bios and see if you have NX or XD settings.

I edited my last post after I read your edited post as it turns out AMD has a different name for NX.

Also I don't even think that there's any NX settings in the BIOS, but I'd have to take another look since I was only looking at other things (plus I'd probably have to update the BIOS to the most recent version (laptop is an acer aspire 5551) since I haven't updated it since I got it two years ago as everything works as it is).

Plus I wouldn't have anywhere to put the laptop so leaving it to download isn't going to be an option.
 
maybe this has been asked before already but does anyone know if the Upgrade needs win7 installed or just a serial. i dont like upgrading OS's i'd rather do a fresh install and just add in the Wni 7 serial when required. seems pointless having to install win7 just to istall windows 8.

im guessing this is what MS will do, be silly i they don't but stranger decisions have been made by MS in the past.
 
I will be upgrading to W8, but I'm far less 'excited' than I was with the W7 release.

7 is pretty awesome and hard to beat. It is leaps and bounds ahead of Vista in terms of usability. Vista just feels like a pain to use after using 7
 
I edited my last post after I read your edited post as it turns out AMD has a different name for NX.

Also I don't even think that there's any NX settings in the BIOS, but I'd have to take another look since I was only looking at other things (plus I'd probably have to update the BIOS to the most recent version (laptop is an acer aspire 5551) since I haven't updated it since I got it two years ago as everything works as it is).

Plus I wouldn't have anywhere to put the laptop so leaving it to download isn't going to be an option.

It's unusual to be able to enable/disable the NX function in the BIOS. If it's there, it's enabled usually.
 
maybe this has been asked before already but does anyone know if the Upgrade needs win7 installed or just a serial. i dont like upgrading OS's i'd rather do a fresh install and just add in the Wni 7 serial when required. seems pointless having to install win7 just to istall windows 8.

I don't know, but I do know that 7 upgrade could do fresh installs and it was actually required for XP>7 so I would "assume" that 8 upgrade allows fresh installs too (and also requires them for XP>8)
 
There we go, why do people use different names, wiki says intel can use the name DX as well.

Anyway if this is your desktop cpu it's supported as well

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon 64 X2 6000+ - ADA6000IAA6CZ (ADA6000CZBOX).html

That's the one, so at least that means that I can put windows 8 on that (but it'll be an OEM and not an upgrade because I'd loose all the installed programs in the update, plus I'd need to put a second hard drive in along with a new graphics card since the graphics card on the motherboard (asus M2N-MX) would probably be borderline for running everything without problems).

It's unusual to be able to enable/disable the NX function in the BIOS. If it's there, it's enabled usually.

I checked the BIOS on the laptop and there's nothing related to NX there (it might just be that acer limits what can be done in the BIOS), but I think that an update would be required since the BIOS is well out of date (it's still on version 1.05 whilst the last version that was released is 2.14) and the acer update program that's meant to be doing this seems to be pants as it's done nothing since I brought the laptop.

Now that I'm more informed, the upgrade for my laptop will still go ahead but I'll be spending the next week or so backing up everything on my laptop and thinning out some of the programs I have installed to leave some more space available on the hard drive in case it's needed during the upgrade.
 
Just installed Windows 8. A few things:

It appears to want to link accounts (email, facebook etc) to it, including DoB, Gender etc etc.... What is it with wanting to link accounts with other accounts and all hardware, does my nut.

Standard NVidia driver gets failing with the display driver not responding error.

I run PLP screen setup and the GUI doesn't work well with it at all when going to the side of the screen or corners to get the popups, it's a pain to get it to work.

I'm finding it no faster than 7

Metro UI would be great for a tablet, but seriously, I'd rather have the info merged with my desktop Rainmeter style.

Not sure how popular this is going to be..
 
Just finished installing Win 8 Pro.

Installed quick, had no issues installing drivers (latest 306.97) and my steam back ups restored no issues.

Runs really quick, looks slick and I have personally found it really easy to get used to.

Well worth the nothing it cost (god bless to OU and their premium dreamspark account) and I would have spent the small cost to buy it myself.
 
Lol...
It will work on any processor from the past 2 decades.
When I say any processor, well, you know what I mean...
Won't install on an 8-year old Centrino laptop due to lack of PAE. Even though the laptop will run Windows 7 quite happily and ran the Windows 8 Tech Preview.

Seems odd to require PAE on the 32-bit edition which is most likely to be installed on systems with less than 4GB of RAM.
 
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