LOL Justice strikes again
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That's not how sentencing should work.
It seems wrong but the scum/idiots will just carry on with the robbing/burglary anyway because that's who they are!
You send a good person away for doing something they now seriously forget and they have learnt a massive lesson and will never do it again. This also serves as a major deterrent to anyone else.
I think the compulsive to robbers and what not should just be locked up indefinitely if hey can't sort themselves out and live correctly within society.
You send a good person away for doing something they now seriously forget and they have learnt a massive lesson and will never do it again. This also serves as a major deterrent to anyone else.
I think the compulsive to robbers and what not should just be locked up indefinitely if hey can't sort themselves out and live correctly within society.
a caution at most, he hasnt caused harm to anyone or is likely to, maybe a community order at a push, but im sick and tired of this political sentencing.
Its fundamentally wrong to sentence someone as a deterrent to others, in fact it goes against every principal of social justice
Yet, people wonder why this country is losing it's moral fibre. 
With "sentencing" like the above you might as well pay him to do it, just for the LOLs.
Custodial sentences for this type of publicity seeking disruption of televised events has been commonplace for years - go check on Cornelius Horan, or one of a many others who have tried similar stunts. Would you still be advocating bleeding heart liberalism of a slap on the wrist had he done the same at a Royal Wedding, or the Queen's Jubilee celebrations?
With "sentencing" like the above you might as well pay him to do it, just for the LOLs.
Custodial sentences for this type of publicity seeking disruption of televised events has been commonplace for years - go check on Cornelius Horan, or one of a many others who have tried similar stunts. Would you still be advocating bleeding heart liberalism of a slap on the wrist had he done the same at a Royal Wedding, or the Queen's Jubilee celebrations?
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So it is wrong to sentence someone as a deterrant?
Is it ok then not to jail Rapists, Murderers, Paedophiles, Kidnappers, Armed Robbers, Burglars, people who glass people in pubs, carry knives in a public place (to name a few crimes)?
Where do you stop? At what level of 'severity' do you jail someone or not jail someone.
What 'principles' of social justice are you citing?
Why is it fundamentally wrong?
In this case the person distrupted a major sporting event. Thousands of people attended and were probably somewhat disappointed at his actions. He was charged with an Offence and was found guilty following a trial. He was sentenced according to the sentencing guidelines. What is wrong with that?
Lastly before you go off on one saying that no-one was harmed. Sure I get that. However to live in a civilised society, you have to conform to the rules. The rules say you cannot behave in a disorderly fashion. If you break that rule you take the consquences. It might sound harsh, but it allows all of us to go about our lawful day to day business without encountering idiots like this (in the main).
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Yet, people wonder why this country is losing it's moral fibre.
With "sentencing" like the above you might as well pay him to do it, just for the LOLs.
Custodial sentences for this type of publicity seeking disruption of televised events has been commonplace for years - go check on Cornelius Horan, or one of a many others who have tried similar stunts. Would you still be advocating bleeding heart liberalism of a slap on the wrist had he done the same at a Royal Wedding, or the Queen's Jubilee celebrations?
lol royal wedding or Jubilee, I would have given him a medal if he'd done it during that pap
The point is he only got a six month custodial for a first offence because he was making a point at an event populated by elitist's, most likely the judge went to oxford or cambridge. Get found with questionable pictures on your PC and you'd be looking at similar, which does the most harm? of course the kiddie porn does.
It doesnt serve the public interest to lock this guy up for six months, there are much better uses for that space in custody, in a system that is already at breaking point. A community order or similar is a consequence, im not saying he shouldnt be convicted but its the disproportionate use of sentencing against those that decide to take action in protest.
Im betting if he was a drunk oxford student who jumped in, he wouldn't be touched.
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So why don't we give the ruling elite harsher punishments as a "deterrent" from being corrupt?
Because the ruling elite like being corrupt and like getting away with it.
"Deterrents" are only for the plebs, remember.
This individual decided to disrupt a sporting event due to being annoyed at Government cuts. Hmm I can really see a connection between a rowing event and government budgets.
Elitist? Sure, get good 'A' levels or become a good rower and you possibly can go to Oxford or Cambridge - what was that, you're not a good rower, neither am I. Thats life I'm afraid.
As for the Judge, Her Honor Anne Molyneux, she seems like a hard worker who has come up throught the Judicial Ranks - take a look at her profile before you make unfounded accusations about her.
If you want to see why he got six months, take a look at the Sentencing remarks. Her Honour Judge Molyneux quite rightly mentions the right to protest - however she again rightly states that protest must be peaceful, must not disrupt lawful activities, should not endanger people and should not be born out of prejudice against others - which is exactly what he did.
If you want to read the summing up, it can be found here
Elitist? Sure, get good 'A' levels or become a good rower and you possibly can go to Oxford or Cambridge - what was that, you're not a good rower, neither am I. Thats life I'm afraid.
As for the Judge, Her Honor Anne Molyneux, she seems like a hard worker who has come up throught the Judicial Ranks - take a look at her profile before you make unfounded accusations about her.
If you want to see why he got six months, take a look at the Sentencing remarks. Her Honour Judge Molyneux quite rightly mentions the right to protest - however she again rightly states that protest must be peaceful, must not disrupt lawful activities, should not endanger people and should not be born out of prejudice against others - which is exactly what he did.
If you want to read the summing up, it can be found here
He specifically chose the event mindful of it's popularity, the exact same reasoning should be employed to make an example of him, reap what you sow.
Of course it is difficult to punish him too harshly while there are so many who think that not going to Eton means they should have their lives paid for by someone else and that their crimes should be overlooked as indiscretions of the disadvantaged.
Of course it is difficult to punish him too harshly while there are so many who think that not going to Eton means they should have their lives paid for by someone else and that their crimes should be overlooked as indiscretions of the disadvantaged.
Probably one of the truest sentences I've read on these boards.
Whilst those in government think they should have their lives paid for by someone else under the guise of "expenses", and that their corruption should be overlooked as indiscretions of the ruling classes.
Define ruling classes.
Whilst the bloke was certainly in the wrong, the fact he pushed Kirkland in the face and Kirkland ended up being on the floor for ages amazes me what a ******* pansy some footballers are.
based on the sentence from the case in the OP this football chav should have probably been given at least double that.