Windows 8 who's buying/upgrading

prescott28 · 25 Oct 2012 at 12:58

But isn't Hotmail / Outlook POP3? According to Thunderbird it is so Windows 8 Mail must support POP3 to some extent.

Mind you, IMAP is far superior as it allows the computer and the phone to both get the mail.

Glaucus · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:14

Odd, but you are right. But yet it doesn't act like normall pop3 does.
However googling MS have said imap coming soon.

I suppose MS have acces to the app and as such built in to the auto selection for outlook, but isn't available to others.

Pretty shoddy, not to include imap from the get go.

ChileanLlama · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:23

Outlook.com/Hotmail is connecting through Exchange ActiveSync.

It gives you the option to add a Pop3 through other mailbox types, but then as soon as it's selected tells you "Mail doesn't support POP3 email accounts. Too add this account to Mail, ask your email provider about using IMAP or EAS".

Didzi · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:28

You upgraded to Windows 8, but didn't have a previous version of Windows installed (error 0xC004F061)

If you see error 0xC004F061 when you try to activate Windows 8, it means that you're using a product key for an upgrade version of Windows 8 and a previous version of Windows wasn't on your PC when Windows 8 was installed. To install an upgrade version of Windows 8, you must already have Windows 7, Windows Vista, or Windows XP installed on your PC.
If you formatted the drive before the upgrade version of Windows 8 was installed, you won't be able to use your upgrade product key to activate Windows 8. To activate Windows 8, you'll need to install your previous version of Windows, and then reinstall Windows 8. For help with the activation process, contact support.

After reading the above it sounds like you cannot do a clean install of Windows 8 upgrade

jamjar · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:31

Didzi said:
After reading the above it sounds like you cannot do a clean install of Windows 8 upgrade

upgrade would work just the same its no different

Glaucus · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:34

Didzi said:
After reading the above it sounds like you cannot do a clean install of Windows 8 upgrade

Not so sure. Seems to put to rest that ou do need windows the machine. However I don't they've removed the clean install option rom the instal menu.
So could still format when your installing it.

Especially as it mentions formatting before you upgrade.

Ahh well, I expect we'll get far more info in a few hours.

If you formatted the drive before the upgrade version of Windows 8 was installed

RobP · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:39

Didzi said:
After reading the above it sounds like you cannot do a clean install of Windows 8 upgrade

Some answers from Microsoft in the Q&A here: http://betanews.com/2012/07/04/four-things-you-really-need-to-know-about-windows-8-upgrades/

The answer to question 2 confirms that you can do a clean install using the upgrade version. The only requirement is that at the start of the upgrade process there is a partition with a previous version of Windows on it (and it is valid).

shuffle · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:42

glad I read this page.. so Win 8 Pro the one to go for from Win 7 in majority of cases.
But looks like its just an upgrade as in can't do a clean install with a 24.99 Win 8 Pro (ok just read post above, sounds a bit of a game, having a partiton with prev windows!!)
When is it available to download? And is there an announcement later??

Glaucus · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:45

Available from midnight. So that'll be like 5am depending what midnight that is.
Keynote being live streamed in a few hours, see win8 launch party thread a few posts down.

By the looks of it you can still do a clean install from within the setup

RobP said:
Some answers from Microsoft in the Q&A here: http://betanews.com/2012/07/04/four-things-you-really-need-to-know-about-windows-8-upgrades/

The answer to question 2 confirms that you can do a clean install using the upgrade version. The only requirement is that at the start of the upgrade process there is a partition with a previous version of Windows on it (and it is valid).

shuffle · 25 Oct 2012 at 13:47

Glaucus said:
Available from midnight. So that'll be like 5am depending what midnight that is.
Keynote being live streamed in a few hours, see win8 launch party thread a few posts down.

By the looks of it you can still do a clean install from within the setup

thats great -thanks for heads up on news later Glaucus

passey89 · 25 Oct 2012 at 14:12

you can clean install once windows 8 has been installed.

Its in the advanced settings to remove everything and just revert back to a full windows install.

Broken Hope · 25 Oct 2012 at 14:31

Yeah once Windows 8 is installed you can just do a refresh or a reset, no need to do a full reinstall the old fashioned way.

Infidelus · 25 Oct 2012 at 14:35

Glaucus said:
Odd, but you are right. But yet it doesn't act like normall pop3 does.
However googling MS have said imap coming soon.

About time too. People have been waiting for MS to do that for years. Funny how it works like IMAP if you use Windows Live Mail, but if you use any other client, you have a POP3 setup.

Stoppit MS, just stoppit!

shuffle · 25 Oct 2012 at 14:37

Ok thats good news about the install business, I did read somewhere about the refresh/reset re-install option on Win 8..
Looking forward to the keynote speech later

Glaucus · 25 Oct 2012 at 14:39

Infidelus said:
About time too. People have been waiting for MS to do that for years. Funny how it works like IMAP if you use Windows Live Mail, but if you use any other client, you have a POP3 setup.

Stoppit MS, just stoppit!

Some one else clarified, outlook uses EAS and other email providers can also use EAS if they wish.

smr · 25 Oct 2012 at 14:58

When will we be able to enter our promo codes?

Glaucus · 25 Oct 2012 at 15:00

smr said:
When will we be able to enter our promo codes?

Probably midnight (USA midnight), or if MS are really feeling nice after the confrence later today.

jamjar · 25 Oct 2012 at 15:14

Broken Hope said:
Yeah once Windows 8 is installed you can just do a refresh or a reset, no need to do a full reinstall the old fashioned way.

i,m puzzled as to why you,d want to do a clean install if you do an upgrade ? :confused:

smr · 25 Oct 2012 at 15:32

jamjar said:
i,m puzzled as to why you,d want to do a clean install if you do an upgrade ?

Thiiiiissss.

ChileanLlama · 25 Oct 2012 at 15:35

You can upgrade your license and upgrade your install (apps/documents etc)

Or you can upgrade your license and clean install Windows 8 as part of the process. Some people like to start fresh, though the upgrade is pretty good in Win8.

If you have problems down the line you can either do a refresh or reset (clean install) from Windows 8 as well.