Such a painful day...

Kavalree · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:36

Energize said:
Always sad to see people buy animals when they can't afford to look after them, even worse when it's down to their own squandering.

I've had her since living with my mum and dad in the first place. Plus we could afford nicely, just the past couple of months where can't afford for ourselves due to a wage cut.

EDIT :- That wage cut was due to a couple of the old folks at the care home passing away, thus, less staff needed. But I guess I should have expected that eh? Expected that after 3 whole years of having my dog, that that would happen and my life turn again. How ******* stupid of me!!!

Energize · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:40

Jaffa_Far said:
I've had her since living with my mum and dad in the first place. Plus we could afford nicely, just the past couple of months where can't afford for ourselves due to a wage cut.

If you're living on such a narrow margin that a wage cut means you have to give up the dog after such a short period of time, then you can't afford a dog. Contingencies need to be planned for.

Kavalree · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:41

Energize said:
If you're living on such a narrow margin that a wage cut means you have to give up the dog after such a short period of time, then you can't afford a dog. Contingencies need to be planned for.

That wage cut was due to a couple of the old folks at the care home passing away, thus, less staff needed. But I guess I should have expected that eh? Expected that after 3 whole years of having my dog, that that would happen and my life turn again. How ******* stupid of me!!!

Zefan · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:41

Jaffa_Far said:
So what is affording a dog?

Being able to afford a place to keep it! It's almost like you're going out of your way to not understand how life works. It's like saying "I can't pay my rent, but I can afford baby food, nappies and clothes so I'm going to have a kid" - totally irresponsible and the kind of attitude I cannot stand.

You were responsible for that animal, you had to give it up because you weren't capable of looking after it. You should have assessed your situation before taking ownership of that kind of responsibility, either changing things in your life to make it workable or coming to the decision that it was not possible. It comes down to the fact that you were either careless or selfish - my money is on both.

:Edit: I simply cannot believe how much of a dream world you live in. It's embarrassing! It was your fault, it was your responsibility alone to ensure that you made contingencies to be able to support that animal and you didn't. You weren't fit to call yourself that dog's owner.

Kavalree · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:43

Zefan said:
Being able to afford a place to keep it! It's almost like you're going out of your way to not understand how life works. It's like saying "I can't pay my rent, but I can afford baby food, nappies and clothes so I'm going to have a kid" - totally irresponsible and the kind of attitude I cannot stand.

You were responsible for that animal, you had to give it up because you weren't capable of looking after it. You should have assessed your situation before taking ownership of that kind of responsibility, either changing things in your life to make it workable or coming to the decision that it was not possible. It comes down to the fact that you were either careless or selfish - my money is on both.

I have had her 3 years. I lived with my mum and dad back then. Had my own place while I was a truck driver, then lost my job, moved in with Manda, dad got us a house, can't afford due to things happening at her work, moving back in with my dad.

arc@css · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:44

G-MAN2004 said:
I'd go and get her back...

+1

Nitefly · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:44

Zefan said:
Being able to afford a place to keep it! It's almost like you're going out of your way to not understand how life works. It's like saying "I can't pay my rent, but I can afford baby food, nappies and clothes so I'm going to have a kid" - totally irresponsible and the kind of attitude I cannot stand.

You were responsible for that animal, you had to give it up because you weren't capable of looking after it. You should have assessed your situation before taking ownership of that kind of responsibility, either changing things in your life to make it workable or coming to the decision that it was not possible. It comes down to the fact that you were either careless or selfish - my money is on both.

:Edit: I simply cannot believe how much of a dream world you live in. It's embarrassing! It was your fault, it was your responsibility alone to ensure that you made contingencies to be able to support that animal and you didn't. You weren't fit to call yourself that dog's owner.

lol, comicly harsh

Kavalree · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:49

Zefan said:
Being able to afford a place to keep it! It's almost like you're going out of your way to not understand how life works. It's like saying "I can't pay my rent, but I can afford baby food, nappies and clothes so I'm going to have a kid" - totally irresponsible and the kind of attitude I cannot stand.

You were responsible for that animal, you had to give it up because you weren't capable of looking after it. You should have assessed your situation before taking ownership of that kind of responsibility, either changing things in your life to make it workable or coming to the decision that it was not possible. It comes down to the fact that you were either careless or selfish - my money is on both.

:Edit: I simply cannot believe how much of a dream world you live in. It's embarrassing! It was your fault, it was your responsibility alone to ensure that you made contingencies to be able to support that animal and you didn't. You weren't fit to call yourself that dog's owner.

Ok...I'll give you the details on the time I owned my dog.

I got her when I lived with my folks and worked in retail. I got a new job as a Driver's Mate and then went onto drive the trucks. Started renting my own flat and was living nicely. Moved in with my girlfriend weeks after losing my job. My dad went through the divorce and got my and Manda a house. We could afford, just, she works in care, we though that was a good job and no threat of losing hours. We were living just well with about £30 a month to ourselves after all expenses and some to my dad. Manda lost a few clients at work as they passed away (more than likely my fault, like everything in your eyes) 3 months ago. Her work reduced her contract due to less work. We have now got a fair whack less and struggling. Moving into my dads this week end, his decision to let my dog go.

'Harry · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:49

Ignore the brats.

Sucks having to do this.

King Damager · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:54

Where's that quote I was looking for about Zefan....

Good luck again Jaffa.

kd

Zefan · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:56

Jaffa_Far said:
his decision to let my dog go.

Your decision to put luxuries for yourself before the basic necessities that made it possible for you to continue supporting the dog. £30 between you, right... so what about your EVE subscription, PS3 games, potential laptop and new case purchases? If you had the money to be looking at that sort of thing then you should have been able to make cutbacks. If you loved that dog like you said you do, then you would have thought more about it. If you preferred having those things over your dog then ok, you're just irresponsible and that's nothing new. What grips me is you seem to be totally gutted about it! If you loved the dog so much you would have given up some of your luxuries and cut back to plan and make a buffer for this sort of thing. Maybe you just didn't actually love her that much.

You go through life like my sister drives - never looking more than a few feet in front of you. Life doesn't work like that. You're learning this. Well I say you're learning it, but sadly you're kicking and screaming very hard in an attempt to convince yourself that it's not your fault. It is your fault.

Did you have pet insurance?

King Damager said:
Where's that quote I was looking for about Zefan....

Go on? Feel like going to the effort of actually articulating a meaningful response?

Kavalree · 25 Oct 2012 at 23:59

Zefan said:
Your decision to put luxuries for yourself before the basic necessities that made it possible for you to continue supporting the dog. £30 between you, right... so what about your EVE subscription, PS3 games, potential laptop and new case purchases? If you had the money to be looking at that sort of thing then you should have been able to make cutbacks. If you loved that dog like you said you do, then you would have thought more about it.

You go through life like my sister drives, never looking more than a few feet in front of you. Life doesn't work like that. You're learning this. Well I say you're learning it, but sadly you're kicking and screaming very hard in an attempt to convince yourself that it's not your fault. It is your fault.

Did you have pet insurance?

I never bought the new case. Yes, I bought some stuff with my tax rebate. EVE pays for itself using PLEX ingame, I earn enough in null-sec. The laptop was bought with birthday money my girlfriend was given, I was led to believe it was her own until she bought it. We had direct line pet insurance and all inoculations upto date as my dad payed for them...

Yes, I have made mistakes, but the fact the persons who now have Maddie have said I can visit has eased my mind...but would it be fair?

Like I said earlier, I would rather make these mistakes now than later in life.

Zefan · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:04

Jaffa_Far said:
I can visit has eased my mind...but would it be fair?

No, it wouldn't be fair on her.

Castiel · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:15

Sorry to hear that you were forced to give up your dog Jaffa_Far....

.and why all the nasty commentary from everyone?, damn he said why he had to do it, and you can't plan for every eventuality not everyone is made of money or has the ability to pan and save for everything that might go wrong, particularly when you are young.....if his dad won't allow the dog to stay then he can hardly go homeless, that helps neither him or the dog. Give the bloke a break.

Zefan · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:16

Castiel said:
Sorry to hear that you were forced to give up your dog Jaffa_Far....

.and why all the nasty commentary from everyone?, damn he said why he had to do it, and you can't plan for every eventuality not everyone is made of money or has the ability to pan and save for everything that might go wrong, particularly when you are young.....if his dad won't allow the dog to stay then he can hardly go homeless, that helps neither him or the dog. Give the bloke a break.

Something tells me you don't know this guy's history.

Castiel · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:18

Jaffa_Far said:
I never bought the new case. Yes, I bought some stuff with my tax rebate. EVE pays for itself using PLEX ingame, I earn enough in null-sec. The laptop was bought with birthday money my girlfriend was given, I was led to believe it was her own until she bought it. We had direct line pet insurance and all inoculations upto date as my dad payed for them...

Yes, I have made mistakes, but the fact the persons who now have Maddie have said I can visit has eased my mind...but would it be fair?

Like I said earlier, I would rather make these mistakes now than later in life.

You don't have to explain yourself Jaffa_Far.....sometimes life throws you a curve ball and there isn't much you can do about it. You live and learn, and its important that you do learn from the mistakes and crapola that life deals out sometimes.

I do think that you Dad is a bit harsh asking you give up the Dog though, not to mention the questionable act of giving to a house he probably knew you couldn't easily afford. It must have put you in a difficult situation to begin with, you can hardly refuse his offer easily and I can imagine the pressure such a decision can have.

Musty Pie · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:20

I kind of have to agree with cas. Whilst its obvious that Jaffa couldn't support the dog after unforseen changes that doesn't change the fact that this is probably difficult for him to come to terms with.

Castiel · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:22

Zefan said:
Something tells me you don't know this guy's history.

Yeah, I know about the lottery etc....but sometimes you just give the guy the benefit of the doubt. If he has had to give up his pet then I expect he feels pretty cut up about it, and if he lying then we should pity him all the more.....

I'd rather give him the benefit for now.

Kavalree · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:24

Castiel said:
Yeah, I know about the lottery etc....but sometimes you just give the guy the benefit of the doubt. If he has had to give up his pet then I expect he feels pretty cut up about it, and if he lying then we should pity him all the more.....

I'd rather give him the benefit for now.

Thank you. I do regret spending all the lotto money. I really can't mention what it was spent on, squandered I guess...When you are young you don't care and you spend it willy nilly.

Zefan · 26 Oct 2012 at 00:26

Castiel said:
I'd rather give him the benefit for now.

Haha, literally? I see what you did there

Did you read this thread? http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18378953

Maybe you should have saved the money instead of spending it on luxuries you couldn't afford.

I understand it's hard to deal with and everything Castiel, but Jaffa seems to be under the illusion that it's not totally his fault.

Jaffa_Far said:
When you are young you don't care and you spend it willy nilly.

Exactly. You didn't care enough about the dog to make sensible financial decisions, and you're not paying for it emotionally.