Am I racist?

Doubt it. I was once called a racist because I don't watch 'British' football like I used to.

As a teen I used to love football as much as any other kid. My sole reason is that I stopped when the foreign players invaded our british teams, which I saw would eventually equate to us eventually having a crap international squad in future.

Oh and I'm flipping a Brit born Indian geezer.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
You may not see it as a problem, but that doesn't mean that it's not still a significant problem.
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sorry but your reply makes no sense in terms of my quote, where did I say that there was not a problem ? what I am saying is these things do not help in the slightest and if anything cause resentment as it seems like one part of a community seperating themselves for others on the basis of skin colour which seems very hypocritical
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Well said, and yes white people can win mobo's, Eminem has won at the mobo's as have no doubt many other non black artists.
Mobo means MusicOfBlackOrigin and is simply a factual statement, racists however seem to get their knickers in a twist about it as many of them are a bit stupid and don't understand :p
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The problem with that is whilst white artists can win MOBOs they can only do so when they are artists doing so-called 'urban' music whereas black artists can do any style of music (regardless of origin) and still be considered.

For example, Samantha Mumba makes pop music no different to Kylie yet she gets nominated for MOBOs.

This year Rebecca Ferguson and Emelie Sande are nominated for best female yet niether (IMO) make music of black origin, they make ballards. What is different between the type of music Sande makes and Adele (who isn't nominated)?
 
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Moses said:
The idea is that they face special issues, which you as a white man do not. In football, for example, you don't see white people being racially abused... but black people have bananas thrown at them/endure monkey chants/etc.
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not sure that segregating themselves is going to promote inclusivity
 
estebanrey said:
The problem with that is whilst white artists can win MOBOs they can only do so when they are artists doing so-called 'urban' music whereas black artists can do any style of music (regardless of origin) and still be considered.

For example, Samantha Mumba makes pop music no different to Kylie yet she gets nominated for MOBOs.

For example this year Rebecca Ferguson and Emelie Sande are nominated for best female yet niether (IMO) make music of black origin, they make ballards. What is different between the type of music Sande makes and Adele (who isn't nominated)?
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I think the MOBOs are different. I find it harder to argue that they should exist as racism isn't such a problem in this specific profession.

Rotty said:
any organisation that bases it's membership on skin colour is discriminatory, that can't be argued against, how on earth can this help integration and harmony ?
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So how do you suppose that racism is tackled in football if there is nobody to push the agenda?
 
Burnsy2023 said:
So how do you suppose that racism is tackled in football if there is nobody to push the agenda?
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not for me to sort but however they do it it needs to be done on an inclusive basis

this just causes resentment and is discriminatory in itself which is totally hypocritical
 
Rotty said:
not for me to sort but however they do it it needs to be done on an inclusive basis
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I would argue that if this is going to be given the priority that is needed you need to have people who a)know what the issues are and b) have experienced it so they are motivated to change it. TBH the people affected are the most qualified to push the agenda.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I would argue that if this is going to be given the priority that is needed you need to have people who a)know what the issues are and b) have experienced it so they are motivated to change it. TBH the people affected are the most qualified to push the agenda.
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yes but how is seperating themselves on the grounds of skin colour going to help ? they should "push the agenda" from an inclusive organisation
 
Rotty said:
yes but how is seperating themselves on the grounds of skin colour going to help ? they should "push the agenda" from an inclusive organisation
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Perhaps they're separating themselves on the basis of who is affected and skin colour is just a correlation?
 
Imagine the uproar if we were to create a "white persons football association".

You are not racist and quite right to be concerned.
 
grimm said:
Imagine the uproar if we were to create a "white persons football association".
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How about a:

Asian person football association
Jew person football association
Japs person football associations
Indian person football association

Etc...

Exactly. The idea of thinking about it, is wrong.
 
rotters said:
Why have I always had an issue with the mobo's (music of black origin).
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Well take that one out of your issues because the music is of black origin but many white artists win awards in it so there's no problem.
I know your next question though - Why isn't there a MOWO Awards?
Perhaps because nobody can be arsed to start one.
 
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