Are we losing this country?

Erm, where did he insult you? :confused: Maybe you should look up the term insult.

He asked if you were a returnee?

Which we all know the answer to.

I'm saying overall, people do not like the truth, they have been brainwashed. When you mention immigration the word racist comes to play. it a way to stop you questioning it, negative connotation to words which is a form of mind control.
 
Minister - don't bring uni fees into this, if one is so stupid that they don't understand they won't have to pay the fees until they get a liveable salary, one probably shouldn't go to uni ;)

You have posted so much crap in this thread it's unbelievable. Why don't you try expanding and justifying your points for once?

PS - just for the record, I'm an immigrant and even I think your grammar sucks ;)
 
Yes we are, this country is falling apart in so many ways, you have companies abusing our system, you have MPs abusing our system, you have too many immigrants in this country abusing our system the list goes on.

I meet a lot of non British people, and they ask me if there are any real Londoner as they always seem to meet foreign people.
I want my country back, I want to walk down the road hearing people speaking English, i’m sick of bending over to please these visitors, that do not care about anything apart from taking.
You have MPs destroying our councils to make a quick buck, screw the people, you have provate companies seeking government contracts because there is profit to be made and its easy money, compared to the private markets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLf... the Daily Fail also...... WE ARE DOOMED!!
 
Minister - don't bring uni fees into this, if one is so stupid that they don't understand they won't have to pay the fees until they get a liveable salary, one probably shouldn't go to uni ;)

You have posted so much crap in this thread it's unbelievable. Why don't you try expanding and justifying your points for once?

PS - just for the record, I'm an immigrant and even I think your grammar sucks ;)

Do you know that the £21,000 was the amount that you started to pay it back in the late 90s before they changed it and that was for only 5k, I think that was the max. did you know university was free?

You really have no clue about whats going on in this country, keep your blinkers on, and i'm racist because I want to close the doors on immigration etc.. thats not racist, explain to me how is that racist?.

This country needs to close it doors,if it does not then it's just going to end in a big mess.
 
Do you know that the £21,000 was the amount that you started to pay it back in the late 90s before they changed it and that was for only 5k, I think that was the max. did you know university was free?

You really have no clue about whats going on in this country, keep your blinkers on, and i'm racist because I want to close the doors on immigration etc.. thats not racist, explain to me how is that racist?.

This country needs to close it doors,if it does not then it's just going to end in a big mess.

The door is that way >>

Feel free to take your bigoted views with you when you leave the country and find somewhere "better" to live. :)
 
The door is that way >>

Feel free to take your bigoted views with you when you leave the country and find somewhere "better" to live. :)

Is that all you can come up with provide an insult because you have no clear understanding and have been brain washed into thinking any argument against immigration is racist.

I like to ask you a question, according to YOU we should never close our doors and always welcome eveyone in, how long do you think it would last, how long would it take you to change your mind, and once you changed your mind can i call you a bigot?.
 
Is that all you can come up with provide an insult because you have no clear understanding and have been brain washed into thinking any argument against immigration is racist.

I like to ask you a question, according to YOU we should never close our doors and always welcome eveyone in, how long do you think it would last, how long would it take you to change your mind, and once you changed your mind can i call you a bigot?.

There is a very clear difference between "always welcome everyone" and the policy that is actually in place in this country. We don't welcome every John, Dick and Harry into this country as you are seeming to imply.

Immigration is necessary to expand and increase the skill base in this country.

As I mentioned above though, if you don't like it then find somewhere else to live.
 
ok, this is getting annoying now. You obviously care enough to hijack a thread but not enough to let us know who you were before you were banned. That doesn't seem fair.

e : placeman, placeholder, borderholder .... something like that. I demand a prize when I am proved correct :D
 
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There is a very clear difference between "always welcome everyone" and the policy that is actually in place in this country. We don't welcome every John, Dick and Harry into this country as you are seeming to imply.

Immigration is necessary to expand and increase the skill base in this country.

I think the way that immigration is portrayed in the Media is a contributing factor to some of his views.

I don't really see the Bigot argument though, unless I'm taking what he is saying in the wrong way.

Minister, are you implying that we should shut off our borders completely, allowing No-one in ?
 
Immigration is necessary to expand and increase the skill base in this country.

As I mentioned above though, if you don't like it then find somewhere else to live.

Just on these two points. I don't really want to get involved, but as long as I stay on the debate side of this instead of the **** flinging side I don't mind.

Immigration is definitely not necessary to expand and increase the skill base, we just import a lot of our skill. Which is a shame and says a lot about our systems, but what can we do.

The second point though, why should anyone have to move because they disagree with the way their country is being run, surely they should be allowed to voice their opinion?

The entire world is overpopulated at the moment, and people continue to live and procreate in areas that cannot sustain anymore life (Think Africa) and we continue to let them and/or help where we can. I'm not saying we should stop doing this, I'm just saying that maybe we need to have a little think about controlling a problem that could be catastrophic soon with a world that really doesn't need as many people in it.

No-one go crazy, just thinking out loud.
 
There is a very clear difference between "always welcome everyone" and the policy that is actually in place in this country. We don't welcome every John, Dick and Harry into this country as you are seeming to imply.

Immigration is necessary to expand and increase the skill base in this country.

As I mentioned above though, if you don't like it then find somewhere else to live.

What policy? What policy do we have in place for Europe? please would really like to know. What policy do we have for Intra company transfer? There is no policy in this country, Its open doors as soon as you say asylum. How many asylum seekers has this country return none.

We have a skill base, when you hear companies who complain about skills etc.. they dont want skills they want cheap labour, they want to pay min wage, they want part time workers.
 
I think the way that immigration is portrayed in the Media is a contributing factor to some of his views.

I don't really see the Bigot argument though, unless I'm taking what he is saying in the wrong way.

Minister, are you implying that we should shut off our borders completely, allowing No-one in ?

It might come to that, this country can not grown food for the population it has now, this country does not have the required energy fields it needs for an increasing population, this countries infrastructure is falling apart.

Now the pension bill, if we allow more people in then our pension bill will grow, so we need even more workers etc... and because we need more workers our social bill will grow.

Rents in this country are on the border of becoming unaffordable,we have more people coming in than we have building programmes.
 
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ok, this is getting annoying now. You obviously care enough to hijack a thread but not enough to let us know who you were before you were banned. That doesn't seem fair.

e : placeman, placeholder, borderholder .... something like that. I demand a prize when I am proved correct :D

Do you expect a prize from this, even if you're correct which is still far from being determined. Perhaps a badge or a Man of Honour award? Some Haribo? Maybe a sticker which reads, "I posted dumb stuff on the internet and eventually I was right!"?

Do you think this makes your other posts more relevant (or even readable) and more worthy of consideration? Should we plumb them for new depths of knowledge, for information we missed the first time?

Your posts are dreadful, uninspiring and habitually lacking in fact even though this is a word you enjoy misusing. If 'calling it first' will help improve this situation then knock yourself out, take the made-up Gold Internet Badge for Calling It First and start posting properly you terrible interneter.

:o
 
Your posts are dreadful, uninspiring and habitually lacking in fact even though this is a word you enjoy misusing. If 'calling it first' will help improve this situation then knock yourself out, take the made-up Gold Internet Badge for Calling It First and start posting properly you terrible interneter.



Only appropriate thing right now in a thread of a single posters crusade against common sense. No idea why you felt the need to attack someone who is trying to show that this thread is just the rantings of a returnee.
 
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