Winter 2012/13

timebomb26 said:
It's pretty worrying that you've just bought them and they're pretty roomy.
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This, dont want your feet slopping around in them when skiing. After a few hours skiing you will need to tighten them up a bit too (even if you use custom foot moulds)

Whilst im on the subject of skiing in general, has anyone booked up for January? Im going to Alp D'heux on 12th Jan for a week
 
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This, dont want your feet slopping around in them when skiing. After a few hours skiing you will need to tighten them up a bit too (even if you use custom foot moulds)

Whilst im on the subject of skiing in general, has anyone booked up for January? Im going to Alp D'heux on 12th Jan for a week
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Second week of Feb booked so far, and looking for another one in March if possible.
 
timebomb26 said:
It's pretty worrying that you've just bought them and they're pretty roomy.
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Guest2 said:
This, dont want your feet slopping around in them when skiing. After a few hours skiing you will need to tighten them up a bit too (even if you use custom foot moulds)

Whilst im on the subject of skiing in general, has anyone booked up for January? Im going to Alp D'heux on 12th Jan for a week
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My feet are huuuuuge and wide. In most boots i cant even spread my toes. These are head ones that have the largest toe.

I got these roomy around the feet (calves are fine) so that I am not in agony when my feet have swollen from altitude or being in my feet all day. Wheb i say roomy i meam thay there are no bits that feel tight.

My feet are not rattling around- im just hoping there are no uncomfortable pressure points. I had 15 years of trouble free skiing from my last pair and then last season i couldnt complete one piste without stopping from pain in my feet. Horrific experience. Im hoping these are just like gloves.
 
St Anton 1st week in Feb. Looking to go again 1st/2nd week in March. Will wait and see where the snow is :)
My custom fitted boots where tight and uncomfortable for the 1st day or 2. Now they are like slippers. Not that I'd recommend skiing in slippers!!
 
Snax said:
My feet are huuuuuge and wide. In most boots i cant even spread my toes. These are head ones that have the largest toe.

I got these roomy around the feet (calves are fine) so that I am not in agony when my feet have swollen from altitude or being in my feet all day. Wheb i say roomy i meam thay there are no bits that feel tight.

My feet are not rattling around- im just hoping there are no uncomfortable pressure points. I had 15 years of trouble free skiing from my last pair and then last season i couldnt complete one piste without stopping from pain in my feet. Horrific experience. Im hoping these are just like gloves.
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'There are no bits that feel tight' is bad news. Ski boots should be tight. People in the industry always use the term "like a firm handshake all over". If it isn't tight you'll lose so much energy inside the boot rather than it being transferred to the ski. The head boots (adapt edge/vector?) all have super thick foam liners, so even though they are a wide last they still felt as snug to me as a Lange RX100, but as soon as you've packed it out in there you'll be swimming. Did you get a custom footbed?
 
Noble-Kebab said:
I have these and are great apart from the fact that the frame, and therefore the lens is pretty small. They don't steam up at all.
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Never seen the idea of massive goggles that cover your face - They do look cool for the snowboarders!

I suppose they do keep the face nice and warm too :cool:

http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Isere-Drome/Alpe-Huez-Les-Cheminees-De-Mascle

Those runs look interesting, not sure about taking an ice axe and rope though! Maybe I will watch other first
 
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Have a pair of Oakley Splices myself (brother has Crowbars), no issues with steaming up. Although on a couple of occasions there has been a film of ice on the outside it was so cold/snowy.

No holiday booked for this year and unlikely I'll book one, grad entry medical courses don't really sort holidays out around skiing :( Either be at Christmas or late Easter and haven't booked anything for Christmas and probably won't book anything at Easter either which sucks.

Another thing to consider is membership to the Ski Club of GB. You get discounts with most of the major tour operators (between 5 & 20% I think depending who you book with) as well as discounts and most major wintersports retailers. You get the membership (£55 adult/£20 under 25) costs back pretty quickly even if you only ski 1 week a year...
 
I can't be bothered to read all the reply's but encouraging people to adjust their setup without really knowing what they are doing will not end well. I have seen someone break their tibia because they were screwing around with the settings on their bindings because they kept coming out of their skis when attempting little jumps, despite my best advice.

Unless you know are an experienced skiier, and know exactly what you are doing, get your ski's setup in a rent shop at the resort and don't mess with the DIN or whatever else.

To the OP if your question isn't already answered, get boots first.

Having your own ski's is like anything else, it is much more enjoyable using your own ski's if you can afford it. I don't understand why it is any different to playing a guitar that isn't yours rather than having your own, seems like a no brainer. I get much more satisfaction using my own ski's than hiring them every year (but I go 2 - 3 times a year and always take two pairs with me). Your choice of ski is not easy, again, unless you know what you are looking for. Take some advice from someone. It all depends on your ability, what type of skiing you do and what the snow conditions are like depending on what time of year and where you go.
 
timebomb26 said:
'There are no bits that feel tight' is bad news. Ski boots should be tight. People in the industry always use the term "like a firm handshake all over". If it isn't tight you'll lose so much energy inside the boot rather than it being transferred to the ski. The head boots (adapt edge/vector?) all have super thick foam liners, so even though they are a wide last they still felt as snug to me as a Lange RX100, but as soon as you've packed it out in there you'll be swimming. Did you get a custom footbed?
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I got custom footbed.

Having experienced the pain of too tight, im relaxed about havng to work harder of they are too loose. That being said the dude in edge and wax said that technology jad cjanged sonthat your foot is relatively loose but with a good fit on the ankle and calf

Looking at it the other way there was only one boot with a wide enough toe for me anyway. Any tweaks can be altered for free as part of the service.

Last year i skied with my boots undone and my feet were still exploding with pain
 
Snax said:
I got custom footbed.

Having experienced the pain of too tight, im relaxed about havng to work harder of they are too loose. That being said the dude in edge and wax said that technology jad cjanged sonthat your foot is relatively loose but with a good fit on the ankle and calf

Looking at it the other way there was only one boot with a wide enough toe for me anyway. Any tweaks can be altered for free as part of the service.

Last year i skied with my boots undone and my feet were still exploding with pain
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The Head boots are good for someone with a high volume foot all over but that only applies to a select number of people. Most people with a 'wide' forefoot still have a fairly narrow heel and defined achilles, so the Head boot isn't going to provide a progressive enough ankle hold. Yes the ankle is one of the most important bits to fit in a ski boot but if theres too much width in the forefoot (after the liner has packed out) then you're going to lose a lot of performance, as well as it being somewhat painful. People need to realise 90% of problems in a ski boot come from it being too big (rental boot syndrome). I'm not trying to be all high and mighty, I'm just trying to offer you information on what you've told me. Obviously I haven't seen your foot so the Head boot may be absolutely perfect for you. Good job on the footbed though. Those things are great.
 
timebomb26 said:
The Head boots are good for someone with a high volume foot all over but that only applies to a select number of people. Most people with a 'wide' forefoot still have a fairly narrow heel and defined achilles, so the Head boot isn't going to provide a progressive enough ankle hold. Yes the ankle is one of the most important bits to fit in a ski boot but if theres too much width in the forefoot (after the liner has packed out) then you're going to lose a lot of performance, as well as it being somewhat painful. People need to realise 90% of problems in a ski boot come from it being too big (rental boot syndrome). I'm not trying to be all high and mighty, I'm just trying to offer you information on what you've told me. Obviously I haven't seen your foot so the Head boot may be absolutely perfect for you. Good job on the footbed though. Those things are great.
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I appreciate the help. Ill just have to see what happens this season. I will take them to an jndoor ski slope in december to see what they are like. My fall back is that the boots can be clamped down quite substantially. Not just with the clips but also with the toe are being reduced. I am pretty sure the boots are head vector boots; certainly head. I have wide size 12 shoes normally but i dont know how "fat" my ankles are.

The next thing that i will be testing are some volkl mantras and some line bacons. Im 105kg and 6'2 so i hope they are both stiff enough for my weight.
 
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Snax said:
I appreciate the help. Ill just have to see what happens this season. I will take them to an jndoor ski slope in december to see what they are like. My fall back is that the boots can be clamped down quite substantially. Not just with the clips but also with the toe are being reduced. I am pretty sure the boots are head vector boots; certainly head.

The next thing that i will be testing are some volkl mantras and some line bacons. Im 105kg and 6'2 so i hope they are both stiff enough for my weight.
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The Mantra is one of my favourite skis ever. It's stiff as hell though. It's beautiful off piste but also carves very nicely as well (better than some carving skis I've been on), but it has to be skied pretty hard. No so much now with the all mountain rocker, but it's still pretty serious. Look in to the Blizzard Bonafide (even though I think it looks awful). It's designed by the same guy who designed the Mantra as he's moved from Volkl to Blizzard. It's just a bit lighter and poppier so can get the same performance with less effort.

If you want a ski that's playful though the Bacon is the one for you. It's relatively soft (probably medium stiffness), but get a 184 and you'd have no problems. I've taken it everywhere and it is so much fun. Piste runs/buttering in the backcountry/park laps, it does it all.
 
Awesome thanks for the suggestion.

What impact do bindings have and what ones are recommended to pair with fat skis. My skis came with some marker bindings and they are not something i have paid attention to. Does paying more jist get a more robust construction?
 
Snax said:
Awesome thanks for the suggestion.

What impact do bindings have and what ones are recommended to pair with fat skis. My skis came with some marker bindings and they are not something i have paid attention to. Does paying more jist get a more robust construction?
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I only ever use Marker bindings, unless they're rail mounts and I have no choice. Marker bindings (the majority of them) are perfect for fat skis as they have a wider profile and thus transmit energy to the edge of the ski easier. Plus I find they just seem to be really well made and robust. With Bacons or Mantras I'd be looking at at least getting a Griffon on it. If you want something a bit sturdier with a higher DIN range go with the Jester Pro. The metal bar on the toe piece actually runs right through stiffening it up a lot making a beasty binding to have. The standard Jester would be a good middle ground though (who has their DIN on 18 anyway :p)
 
The markers are the industry standard in bindings as far as I'm concerned. I have some Salomon STH14 oversized on my 2012s and I have those right up on the DINS and think I'd not need them nearly as high on my marker bindings for the same setting.
Was looking at the Marker Jester Schizo 16 Teal 2013 bindings to go on these Bacons.

Goggles wise, I'm another Oakley wearer. I'm got translucent A frames, which I've just bought 2 new lenses for. The H.I. Permission and VR50 HI Pink lens for different lights. That's the great thing about the Oakleys, changeable lenses!

I'm off from 22nd Dec until 6th Jan, then back for a week end of Jan, long weekend in March, Snowbombing in April and as many weekends in between really.
 
This sounds like a stupid question but given the variables, i will ask it. How do you book a ski weekend?

Im in london: can it be done fairly economically? Do you use the ski train? Are there certain resorts to go for? Or do you live near a resort anyway and just pop up?

Re; bindings i will be going with Marker then. My DIN are stupidly low i think, normally once a week a ski comes off for no reason (other than a huge ski flex). The reason for that is because i slaughtered my tendons when i was 13 because my skis didnt unclip. 2 years ago mu mum had a double break in her leg on a blue slope because her bindings didnt unclip. Have bindings improved over the last few years in terms of unclipping at the right time?
 
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