Sunday Trading Laws

Most shops like my four local 24 hour supermarkets, the retail parks open until 8/9pm and the Trafford Centre open until 10pm?

So I can go to a supermarket, how about a specialist shop? You're lucky there as most places near where I work in central London shut at half 5... I've been trying to look at phones but haven't managed to get to any yet as they shut when I leave. Then there's the post office and banks... Could go at lunch where the queue is about half an hour+ long as everyone else goes at the only time they can get there when the shop is actually open...
 
So I can go to a supermarket, how about a specialist shop? You're lucky there as most places near where I work in central London shut at half 5... I've been trying to look at phones but haven't managed to get to any yet as they shut when I leave. Then there's the post office and banks... Could go at lunch where the queue is about half an hour+ long as everyone else goes at the only time they can get there when the shop is actually open...

So now most shops = specialist shops. Riiiiight.

Boo-Hoo. My heart bleeds. The world doesn't exist to serve only you. Plan ahead.
 
So I can go to a supermarket, how about a specialist shop? You're lucky there as most places near where I work in central London shut at half 5... I've been trying to look at phones but haven't managed to get to any yet as they shut when I leave. Then there's the post office and banks... Could go at lunch where the queue is about half an hour+ long as everyone else goes at the only time they can get there when the shop is actually open...

But those will be business decisions - nobody is forcing those shops to close at those times, there's either little or no demand or no will for the owners of those shops to open later.
 
Actually... Shops do exists to serve their customers...

I don't have a huge issue with post offices and Banks because I can nip out if I need to. I do however find it odd that shops aren't open when office workers are going home, more sales anyone? You never know, it may reduce the mass exodus to internet shopping, which can be done in the evening and delivered to work...

EDIT: That's ok, I get most of my stuff from the internet now. It's your job that's on the line if high street shops go bankrupt, not mine. Same with banks... I haven't been to a branch in years... ;)
 
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But those will be business decisions - nobody is forcing those shops to close at those times, there's either little or no demand or no will for the owners of those shops to open later.

Oh I agree but I'm just pointing out shops just don't seem to actually want out custom even if they are allowed to open.
 
Actually... Shops do exists to serve their customers...

I don't have a huge issue with post offices and Banks because I can nip out if I need to. I do however find it odd that shops aren't open when office workers are going home, more sales anyone? You never know, it may reduce the mass exodus to internet shopping, which can be done in the evening and delivered to work...

Opening times are ingrained.
One of the local villages near where I used to live where for ever complaining that they would all go bankrupt due to opening hours. Everyone told them, they need decent parking and open when people can get there.
They finally relented and all agreed to open till 8pm on a Wednesday and council improved parking and their profits have shot up and several closed shops have now got new occupants.

High streets need to come into modern world and except the landscape has changed.
Shop owners need to realize they can't rent shops out at insane prices and reduced rent is more than no rent, more than 12% of shops are empty now.
And shops need to realize they compete with online prices so need to change their plans, they need to look at the huge growing markets, of which their are several and listen to customers.
 
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On a similar line I do wish more businesses were open say 11AM - 8PM.

Before work, all the shops bar supermarkets are shut
After work, all the shops bar supermarkets are shut

No wonder the high street is dieing a death.
 
Why can't I go to a supermarket instead? The market should be free to determine what it wants and what can be provided cost effectively.

Why do you need to go to the supermarket? Tesco Metro/Co-op offers a range sufficient for a emergency meal at 7PM on a Sunday evening. Sure, you can't get something as elegant as Foie gras but for most people a ready meal would be fine for this one off occasion.

You can't make a decent meal with ingredients from their. Tesco express doesn't even do fresh veg.

Co-op is expensive and again severely limited of goods.

Not selling fresh vegetables has nothing to do with it. Even if they did you'd just find some other item they don't stock.

More to the point, why should Sunday trading laws exist. I haven't seen one good argument why they should stay.
The we should have one rest day doesn't stand up. So many of us already work shifts, weekends etc.

Or the I don't want to work Sundays argument. Then don't, many many people choose not to work weekends and they aren't protected by laws.

And religion should not influence laws IMO. Not that all religions agree on Sunday. Many religions day of rest is Saturday.

It's more the 'want it now' attitude, the religious reasons are just an excuse. Sure, have the law abolished and you can go and get your fresh vegetables from the supermarket. But will that be enough? Next you'll want them open truly 24/7 and never closing ever apart from Christmas day. Then you'll want places like Argos open 24/7 because you might have to get someone a present at 4 in the morning.

But then going to the shops is too much effort so why not just order your shopping online at 10PM Sunday night for it to be on your door step at 7AM Monday morning?
 
I want them to have the choice.
There is no good reason for the law and yes I would like them open truly 24/7 but that's upto the company not me.
There is zero reason for the law and yet again another thread where not one person has put a coherent argument for the law to stay.
 
I don't see anyone complaining about the OcUK opening hours in here. What happens if my monitor breaks at 3am on a Tuesday?
 
I was too busy watching the Olympics or going to the events than to go shopping.

I live in London and it was only really if you follow the news that you might have noticed it... it wasn't that well publicised.

All the more reason to go in the morning as the events generally didn't start until later, yet the shops in and around London were empty despite being open all the time.
 
The shops were paying staff to sit around when it was empty when they could have been better utilised during busy periods. Awaits a petition to ban queuing in shops next.
 
I don't see anyone complaining about the OcUK opening hours in here. What happens if my monitor breaks at 3am on a Tuesday?

That's upto the company. Not one signal person has suggested to bring in a law to force shops to open.

The shops were paying staff to sit around when it was empty when they could have been better utilised during busy periods. Awaits a petition to ban queuing in shops next.
:rolleyes: just love coming out with these stupid statements.

How is queuing remotely the same. Again that's a business decision. On cost vs customer satisfaction. If you try running a supermarket with one checkout open, you will lose customers. That has nothing to do with laws.
 
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All the more reason to go in the morning as the events generally didn't start until later, yet the shops in and around London were empty despite being open all the time.

You must have been watching some other Olympics, because some started as early as 8:30am. You also have to factor in that people had to get to venues and are hardly going to go shopping and turn up somewhere, when for any of the ticketed events, you wouldn't be allowed to bring shopping in anyway.

As I said, many people were also too busy watching the events on TV or at live screens than going shopping, this was reflected in the fact that trading was massively down during the Games period, which a relaxation of Sunday Trading Laws wasn't going to change.
 
I don't agree. I used to work in retail. Shop staff deserve to work reasonable hours and get some family time at least one day a week.

Stop being so selfish and entitled about the right to shop. If you need to shop, find time in the other six days in the week.

Just because a store opens on a Sunday doesn't necessarily mean the staff have to work any longer per week than they currently work - you might however require more of them.
 
:rolleyes: just love coming out with these stupid statements.

How is queuing remotely the same. Again that's a business decision. On cost vs customer satisfaction. If you try running a supermarket with one checkout open, you will lose customers. That has nothing to do with laws.

You fell for that one hook, line and sinker!
 
Sure, have the law abolished and you can go and get your fresh vegetables from the supermarket. But will that be enough? Next you'll want them open truly 24/7 and never closing ever apart from Christmas day. Then you'll want places like Argos open 24/7 because you might have to get someone a present at 4 in the morning.

So what? If someone wants to do their shopping at that time and someone else is prepared to provide that service then WTF does it matter to you or anyone else?
 
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