How hypocritical...
Woman saves fox from hounds
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How hypocritical...
Again, the ignorance of the urban population, not all hunts dress up and make a thing of it, that's only what you see in the press.
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So you're a criminal?
Are we jumping to conclusions now?
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I think this all proves my point about the law being an ass in this respect, the statute is empty and pointless and has just served to appease the masses and brush hunting with dogs under the carpet, apart from the people who are directly involved by either a) keeping hunting around the law or 2) still protesting / campaigning.
This is the most hilarious post in this thread.
So, you respect life so much that you'd be willing to murder a human?
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No the hound has been trained to hunt the fox, they are not doing it to survive.
You wouldn't see a hound in any normal day to day life going round attacking animals to survive would you? Or is it just specifically the fox it sees as food?
What a load of nonsense.
Obviously the poll would be in favor of the fox due the majority of the population being urban dwellers, so a poll is completely void.
Rubbish. I am from the 'country' and know loads who hate fox hunting as it is cruel
You haven’t read any posts in this discussion have you?
You have only read what you 'want' to read.
Regardless, the law is ignored as the control of vermin needs to be kept under control.
Vermin are the ones riding the horses!
So it’s not ok for a lion to rip apart gazelle. You may say that that they hunt to survive, true, but the nature of the hound is to hunt to survive.
Hounds are not 'wild animals'. They dont need to hunt for food
No, because the majority of the population do not understand the reasons behind it.
Most of the population can see a cruel act when it happens and care about the wildlife.
You'll always lose the argument when these people appear to revel in the slaughter of wild animals. One poster in this thread has even stated how much he enjoyed shooting foxes.
Utterly disgusting that anybody could view it as an acceptable hobby.
Utterly disgusting that anybody could view it as an acceptable hobby.
Ah the good old 'ignorance' catch all, an easy way out of any argument.
Not really addressing the point that it does in fact happen rather a lot and no one has really come up with a half decent reason to justify it.
We'll just sweep it under the carpet with a 'well some aren't like that'.
Alternatively they feel that predominantly urban decision makers should not be deciding laws that unduly affect them without proper consultation and that the decisions should lie with those it actually affects rather than those who judge from a distance.
I don't even support pack hunting per se.
Nice!...
I don't recall a referendum, and in the rural region I live in the majority of people are in support of hunting....just maybe the policy decisions for Rural England should be made by those who live and are affected by the policies in Rural England rather than those who live in the urban centres and have very little understanding about Rural issues, instead just thinking that those of us who live and work in rural areas are a different breed of chav scum and are yokels who do not know any better....the sanctimonious attitudes of some normally objective people in this thread astounds me tbh.
Not to mention (referring to the article) the use of artificial earths are used on farms to deter fox dens near to poultry farms and small holdings rather than increasing fox numbers even on farmland not associated with the Hunts.
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I think it would've been faintly hilarious if the cutesey lovely innocent little fox she was saving ripped her face off.
I'm not particularly for or against fox hunting, I'm more concerned about farm animal welfare, I wonder how many of the people whinging and moaning about a few foxes getting hunted still buy New Zealand lamb, or battery chicken meat/eggs?
There are just so many massive issues in this country and the world, I think a lot of these bat **** crazy anti hunt campaigners should put their collective nut-case hysterical minds towards trying to fix those, rather than concentrating on a few foxes.
I think a good amount of the opposition to it is just reverse snobbery tbh.
I'm not particularly for or against fox hunting, I'm more concerned about farm animal welfare, I wonder how many of the people whinging and moaning about a few foxes getting hunted still buy New Zealand lamb, or battery chicken meat/eggs?
There are just so many massive issues in this country and the world, I think a lot of these bat **** crazy anti hunt campaigners should put their collective nut-case hysterical minds towards trying to fix those, rather than concentrating on a few foxes.
I think a good amount of the opposition to it is just reverse snobbery tbh.
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I personally don't have an issue with this, why is it such a problem to spectate? Why is it deemed so evil to put on smart dress, meet at the host's property, have a social gathering then go on to watch the huntsman carry out his work (its normally about 5 people actively involved in the hunt.
Quite a few hunts don't have a horse back following, yet they do exactly the same, and from people I have spoken too (anti hunt) they feel this is more acceptable. It makes no sense.
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jesus fox hunting is so retarded. Even (yes even) in America the act of hunting is so much more controlled then we've ever had it.
and people comparing it to the wild? zero perspective!
and people comparing it to the wild? zero perspective!
Unfortunately you are missing the point.
Arguments in favour of pest-control (something which "We city folk" don't understand" - are not arguments in favour of fox hunting, they are arguments in favour of shooting (which isn't illegal).
http://www.freewebs.com/combatclaire/articles/hunting4.pdf
Even the farmers prefer shooting to hunting with dogs.
You don't need to be from the country to hold a valid view of being against blood sports.
The entire defence of hunting with dogs so far in this thread has been (not shooting - the more effective method of pest control, notice the distinction) is - "you are not from the county, you don't understand".
On this note, I think it's about time we had one & put this issue to rest.
Could use a tranquilizer gun and put them down humanely, I have a feeling none of these farmers 'protecting their livestock' would be willing to pool their money and pay for a professional to do the job they claim is so necessary though.
It makes perfect sense - people object most strongly to it being turned into a sport.
If hunting is a utility, treat it as such.
If it's more than that, then stop the laughable denial that it's a sport and done for enjoyment more than utility.
Treating the death of an animal as an enjoyable past time and then trying to hide behind 'but it's pest control' is pathetic frankly. It's one or the other, you can't have both IMO.