Care to name those major issues?..I have Win8 Pro on three PCs(all upgraded from 7) and none have given me any issues,thrown all my software and games at them,rock stable even with my overclocked cpu/video card.
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Care to name those major issues?..I have Win8 Pro on three PCs(all upgraded from 7) and none have given me any issues,thrown all my software and games at them,rock stable even with my overclocked cpu/video card.
yet another person watch stupid video reviews which the reviewer has no idea what their doing
just try win8 yourself. you may be able to find the public preview somewhere
Well, my opinion is that having a start menu is much better than having a start screen comprised of childish looking tablet OS tiles. I can download one of the hacks which remove Metro from my view at all, but then what's the point of Windows 8 when the Metro parts are half of the OS?
I liked Windows 7, I wanted to try Windows 8 because of how much better it supposedly was performance wise, reliability wise and everything else, but thinking about it I was never craving even more performance and Windows 7 has been secure, solid and good looking. Windows 8 feels like they want me to use my computer like a tablet, or failing that I can go back to a traditional desktop view which doesn't have the start menu, instead I get taken back to that horrible looking tiled UI which was blatantly not designed to be navigated with a mouse.
The thing I'm annoyed about is that this is just my opinion, you may not care about what things look like, how nice they are to use, where things are kept and arranged, but I do, and I'm more than entitled to share my view on here without basically being told my opinion isn't valid.
I thought Windows 3.1 was childish looking compared to DOS 6.22 back in those very old days,end of the day I just adapted and excepted you will always get a few things you may not like,in most cases and that includes Win7,8 etc you can work around them.
End of the day I adapted to Windows from DOS and saw all the changes over the decades ie 3.1,95,98,XP,Vista,7,8 and adapted to all those changes however minor or major.I even adapted to a few Linux Distros too.
Metro is not an issue,you can ignore it for 99% if you make changes and customize your PC,lets face it we all do that,ie like certain things on desktop etc...you get my point,Win8 is just an hybrid OS ie extension of both Desktop and Tablet interface,really not hard to work with or ignore Metro for those that hate it,I like to think I'm a gamer and desktop user first so if I can adapt and get things within 2 clicks max anybody can,I do miss those old DOS days with loads of commands to learn and users nowadays would throw a fit on what DOS was like back then,got it so damn easy now and people still bitch and moan lol.....
Last point nobody is forcing anybody to buy Win8,you can stay with 7 or older OS and wait for 9(9 will probably be based on Win8 anyway with improved Metro,my best guess) or get left behind.
End of the day I just adapt,quite fun in some ways doing that.
Win8 a piece of cake to use and to customize.
I actually hated Win8 in beta and did miss the Start menu 7 had,but now don't miss it at all,I've all my programs within 1 or 2 clicks regardless of Metro or Desktop and I spend 99% of my time on desktop,I even customize my Metro tiles and removed ones I don't need,anything in Metro I need on desktop went there,simple as that.
I will adapt to Win9 as well,
.There is no perfect OS,if you can except you have to adapt regardless of the OS in question things go a lot easier,I have been doing this since DOS 6.22 where did the time go lol...
Actually, it was some professional software analysts, but the screenshot you have shown is different to what I saw, so they must have updated it to fix the mistakes as I tried it on a shop model and again it was different to yours and I'm guessing they woudnt update shop models.
Maybe they were early problems, but I personaly still wouldnt touch it.
It's just more money grabbing by microsoft, there is nothing wrong with 7 and all that was required was maybe an optional Metro App upgrade, not a whole other OS.
I have heard same statement with Win98 SE,XP etc ie nothing wrong with it.
It's called progress and adapting to the changes and needs of current hardware/technology,as to money grabbing,Win8 is probably lowest priced OS Microsoft have released.
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I dislike that saying very much because it leaves absolutely no room for progression. If we all adopted that approach, we will never move forward.
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and that's what some people strangely want. Best leave them behind lol
Well I'm all for progression but once they finally got it just right with seven, why didn't they just keep updating or at least keep it the same format. And I personally don't see the changes or needs that required a windows mobile style desktop OS. Whats that all about! It is kind of reducing their audience a bit isn't it, I mean not everyone is FB mad and twitty crazy! lol
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As I stated adapting to current technology etc..now they have a wider market ie desktop,tablet/laptop,phone etc all from one OS.
As to same format I could say samething about my favourite DOS 6.22 OS decades ago,the format now that Win8 has covers a wider market and is more versatile then Win7.
win 7 UI/layout/format is outdated, it's 16 years old~ , when windows 95 was released.
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Windows 7 was released in late 2009, thats 2 not 16 years ago
I think he means its based on Win95 type layout which has been around too long,same goes for 98,XP,Vista etc.. not much has changed layout wise.
u didn't read my edited part
can you link us the video? i'd be surprised if it was something that was added and not present in the early versions but Its not something I tried on the preview.
I'm getting pretty sick of reading these Start menu/screen arguments. Its fine to call out misinformation but at the end of the day some people are just not going to like the changes, but that's ok.
I have to point out though that I don't really see how Windows 8 is a money grab for Microsoft above and beyond any other software company in the business. Its a major release and they are charging accordingly.
There may be nothing wrong with 7 but that doesn't preclude Windows 8 from offering any value. Your "optional metro app upgrade" is exactly what Windows 8 is. There is plenty of life left in Windows 7 and you are free to choose not to upgrade.
no linky? i suspect the rest of the video was rubbish aswell, i've seen a few now and frankly many proffesionals should question how proffesional they are lol, the amount of factually incorrect stuff in some of these vids is amazing.
anyway i checked a pre release build and the printer search is in there, 17 results again, are you sure your clicking on settings over on the right hand side of the screen?.
Yeah sorry, you edited while I replied.
Sorry I've been trying to but it was quite a while ago now and I can't seem to find it.
I just don't think they needed to change it so drastically from the layout that has been around (like Gareth170 said
) for 16 years and has become so standard. It's what everyone is used to now and a lot of, if not most people are not going to want to have to re-learn they're way around their PC again. Especially professsionals in the workplace and that is why I think microsoft have shot themselves in the foot a bit. Maybe you're right and it is just offering a choice between 7 & 8 but it's now hard to find a new system in a shop with 7 on it instead of 8 and thats the bit that is the most annoying.
I guess I will just have to wait n see if they update with an option to turn off Metro, which I doubt. But its probably more likely that that will be in Windows 9, next year after they realise they've been too pushy and haven't had the sales they wanted! lol
I'll stick with Seven.
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I just don't think they needed to change it so drastically from the layout that has been around (like Gareth170 said
well this is one of those views i've seen a lot but as someone who looks after nearly 5000 pc's for a living, i can see how people use them the number that use the start menu is remarkably small.
It depends how you define proffessionals though, are you meaning IT proffessionals? if so then to be quite frank, i'd expect any IT proffessional worth there salt to have no issue with win 8, if its just workers in general then you'd be amazed by how many dont go near the start menu and rely on desktop shortcuts etc. This is what tied in with microsofts usage stats, where the start menu wasnt being used that much, my own experience matches this. Most people in my experience prefer to have the programs etc available as shortcuts on the desktop, not burried away in the start menu.
I wouldnt be afraid of rolling out windows 8 in the workplace either, by the time you've removed the apps if you dont want them (we can write our own apps so we might not actually want to ignore them completely), controlled everything you need to via gpo, your essentially left with the same OS as 7, with all the underlying improvments, and essentially replaced the start menu with a start screen, when it boils down to it, its arguably not the paradigm shift many would make it out to be.
Of course some people will freak out, thats to be expected, but then some people freak out if they go to another otherwise identical computer and the icon they used to access something isnt there, a lot of it comes down to simply how competent you are using a computer, and for those that arent literally any change is a problem.
Windows 7 Beta was a lot further on than Vista, so represents further Windows development above release Windows Vista. It's the same as Windows 7 at release, and Windows 7 at the end of its lifecycle, it'll be fairly different in that regard. Otherwise, 7 and Vista are near enough the same bar the UI, just that Vista development stopped/slowed whilst 7 development continued.