Diet Food Programme

whatever man, my method will actually SAVE you money. If you cant go 3 meals without eating thats pretty sad.
 
A friend of mine tried the starvation method which has been suggested ... yes he lost some weight but felt like **** the whole time he was doing it. It might work in the short term but it would not be sustainable over the time period the OP would need in order to lose the weight he wants.
 
Any method you do is starving yourself. The only way you lose weight is through your body's starvation response catabolizing fat. Skipping 3 meals is easier than the equivalent 6-8 hours of exercise IMO, and more convenient and simpler than having to remember rules and deal with special foods. The only thing you have to worry about is "am I eating today?" Humans are supposed to work on feast/fast. That's why everyone's insulin response is messed up, from eating too OFTEN. You can "hack" it by eating low carbs but its the same effect. Personally I find it much easier to simply eat nothing rather than eat low carb.

Plus you dont have to look like a fruit to everybody, "oh no that's got too many carbs I'm watching my figure".
 
Fluttershy said:
It's just a stupidly abstract way to reduce calorie intake.
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I agree; I just cannot see how you could possibly hope to sustain such an approach long enough to shed 11 stone. A fad diet isn't going to help in the long term. Serious lifestyle changes are required to lose that amount of weight. Even if you could stick with it long enough to lose 11 stone, you'll quickly regain it if you revert to your previous attitude towards food and exercise.

delta0 said:
Give up alcohol. Eat less carbs (especially reduce sugar). Exercise.
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At the most fundamental level, this is exactly what you need to aim towards. Technically you could achieve it via kwerk's wacky method, but ideally you should work towards something you can sustain for the rest of your life; there's no point in shedding 11 stone if you're just going to regain it. memyselfandi has made some suggestions that will set you on the right track.
 
I'd not waste my money on those diet plans / meals, just count calories and plan meals.

If you're relying on whatever the sandwich van has or the work canteen you're likely to make bad choices (you'll have no idea what you are eating so how can it be an informed choice?).

Just looking on the back of any food product you buy will help, be informed and if you still decide you're going to eat it fine, just know it. Planning meals (e.g. a pot of porridge you can make at work, a soup you can put in the micro etc) will help and if you can make a big batch of something on sunday then portion up you'll find it much easier to eat after work as you know it's there you won't be tempted to pop into the shop on the way back. You'll also know exactly what is in it, not only in terms of calories but in terms of grams of protein, carb, fat, salt etc. It's important to get enough protein and fat and eating the right amount of carbs will help your mood, sleep and exercise and make you a lot less likely to give up on the diet.

Also I don't like the term diet, it has the impression of a temporary thing and it isn't, it's just an awareness of how you are fueling yourself for the rest of your life. Hence why I think things like slimfast are pointless, if you can't do it for the rest of your life why bother for the next few months?
 
memyselfandi said:
A friend of mine tried the starvation method which has been suggested ... yes he lost some weight but felt like **** the whole time he was doing it. It might work in the short term but it would not be sustainable over the time period the OP would need in order to lose the weight he wants.
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You have to ease in to it and get your insulin sensitivity right. If you're not used to it your cells are all clogged up and dont want to free up fat, it's like jumping in to weight lifting when your muscles arent used to working. Coffee helps a ton btw.

For the long term something that fits better with the circadian rhythm is probably better, like only fasting 1 day a week or skipping breakfast every day. I found that works good too, dont eat breakfast and nothing at work and only eat when you get home. so like 5pm to 12pm eating.
 
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Don't overcomplicate things and don't do any stupid starving yourself rubbish or fad diets.

If you are that overweight just eat 3 normal meals per day. Snack on fruit and do a bit more walking. Try and go for a 45 min walk at a brisk pace every other day.

Cut down on the crap like crisps, chocolate and biscuits. They are fine as a treat but not everyday!
 
Fluttershy said:
Stop talking ****.

Those aren't the only two options.
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If you want to lose 1 lb you have to eat roughly 3500 cals less or burn 3500 cals more. So yes those are the two options. The rest comes down to timing and personally I find skipping a whole day easier than eating a small meal and then being hungry an hour later, or having to count calories and avoid carby foods.
 
Fasting is not a long term solution. Returns will diminish and you will feel awful. Losing the muscle and screwing up you insulin levels are not the way to do it heathly.
 
I've gone from 148kg to 87kg (and still falling) in around a year, along with other much bigger health benefits, from starting here.
 
I'd suggest not doing anything too radical. You want to re-train yourself to eat sensibly and realise this is something that needs to be a long term sustainable change not something you do for a few months and then give up.

Eating better is key to this, but I find doing some exercise does help mentally focus yourself and for me at least seems to make me feel a bit more positive about the whole thing.

I've gone from about 19 stone to 13.5 stone over a couple of years. I have a little more to go but am getting in the right direction. All I've done in that time is work out what I should be aiming for in terms of daily intake to sustain my weight, and then make sure I'm consuming less. I'm still eating about 2,000 kcals per day, but making sure they're from healthier sources. If you cut out junk food you'd be surprised at how much you can still eat.

The point about not doing anything too radical is that I don't really feel like I'm dieting, and even when I hit my target weight I don't really see myself changing my eating habits too much.
 
Thanks all for the advice. I'm still leaning towards the slimfast diet, at least in the short term. But I'm going to speak to the doctor before I commit to anything in case he tells me I need to try something else instead.
 
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