Duchess of Cambridge's nurse has reportedly been found dead

SteveOBHave said:
I can't think of any other way of describing someone that feels that taking their own life because they passed a phone call through and is so selfish that they can't consider the well being of their family above themselves.
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fair enough she probably werent all there lol but shes dead if u know what i mean. But i agree with u 100% no reason to take her own life, pathetic if u ask me.
 
rotters said:
I think that is very insensitive. I have more than enough intelligence to contextualise having been in her position many times regarding the media and patients information. The media are cheeky bar stewards and will try anything.
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If i called you a bad name and then tomorrow found out you had killed yourself as a result, would i have blood on my hands?
 
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If i called you a bad name and then tomorrow found out you had killed yourself as a result, would i have blood on my hands?
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good analogy. People are placing too much blame on the DJ's, they were probably handed a script to do it in the first place, even if they werent its not their fault that she killed herself.
 
ince said:
If you punch someone and they die it is no defence to say it wasn't a hard punch and with anyone else it wouldn't have killed them. Everyone is different. The djs chose to pull the stunt. As a result a person has committed suicide. They have to face the consequences of that. Their careers are over that's is for sure. The next question is should they face further charges.
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actually it is.

My sister had someone knocking on her door and causing trouble, her BF punched the guy and he died.

My sisters bf was in prison on remand for a few weeks before being released without charge
 
Redz said:
Internet trolling 101 at a guess ;)
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Why because I expressed an opinion that I think that someone killing themselves without consideration for their family over something as trivial as making an honest mistake is a thoroughly stupid thing to do? Or was it that I've suggested that the general uproar over this and the lack of peoples ability to contextualise because they feel the need to get emotionally invested in the latest internet 'who we gonna hate on this week' trend is idiotic?

RDM said:
Remind me again of your professional qualifications?
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It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the reaction is disproportionate to the situation. It certainly doesn't take a medical degree in psychiatry to see what is reasonable and what is not.
 
mrjagga said:
What a silly post, u need professional qualifications to come to that conclusion then? it was a selfish thing to do.....
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Could I suggest you look up the word "empathy". You seem to be completely incapable of it.

SteveOBHave said:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the reaction is disproportionate to the situation. It certainly doesn't take a medical degree in psychiatry to see what is reasonable and what is not.
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That would be "No qualifications at all and zero experience with suicidal people" then...

You have no idea of the woman's personality or the circumstances she has found herself in. You have no idea what pressure she has been under or what has been happening to her. Yet you think you know her and her situation well enough to call her a nut job. Well done, it seems that you too lack some basic human empathy.
 
SteveOBHave said:
Oh for the love of... honestly you people are hilarious. Debating over the semantics of this is laughable. A pair of DJs made, what was to all expectations, a harmless prank call. A nutjob topped herself (tragic but a stupid overreaction that left two kids without a mother and a husband without a wife). A nurse divulged private information to someone that they thought was the queen. There isn't anything else to discuss. It's just a sad unraveling of unforeseeable outcomes to a tasteless joke.

Everyone will have forgotten about this in 2-3 days except for the family that has been left without their mother/wife because of some idiotic honor belief? All this posturing and public outrage is just garbage bred out of people with too much time on their hands and not enough intelligence to contextualize the information.
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A harmless prank call in which they tried to get people to divulge confidential information. A harmless prank that puts the victim is a position where she may break the law and open herself up to disciplinary procedures.

The fact that the hospital chose not to discipline them is irrelevant. The people that run the radio station didn't know this when they recorded it and they didn't know it when they broadcast it. They decided that a few cheap laughs at someone else's expense and the resulting publicity was more important than the potential impact on the nurse's careers. If they had asked permission before broadcasting it they would have been told to get lost.
 
RDM said:
Could I suggest you look up the word "empathy". You seem to be completely incapable of it.



That would be "No qualifications at all and zero experience with suicidal people" then...

You have no idea of the woman's personality or the circumstances she has found herself in. You have no idea what pressure she has been under or what has been happening to her. Yet you think you know her and her situation well enough to call her a nut job. Well done, it seems that you too lack some basic human empathy.
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It's one thing to have empathy for the woman, it's a whole other thing to then contextualise everything else in the situation on the basis of this overreaction. I'm not sure what it is that you're expecting from me. Yes it's sad that she felt that death was her only option, but the roll on effect of this will taint many peoples lives for years to come. My empathy is spent on those that need it.
 
Stokesy said:
A harmless prank call in which they tried to get people to divulge confidential information. A harmless prank that puts the victim is a position where she may break the law and open herself up to disciplinary procedures.

The fact that the hospital chose not to discipline them is irrelevant. The people that run the radio station didn't know this when they recorded it and they didn't know it when they broadcast it. They decided that a few cheap laughs at someone else's expense and the resulting publicity was more important than the potential impact on the nurse's careers. If they had asked permission before broadcasting it they would have been told to get lost.
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It had no impact on anyones career. The phone call was made "as a joke" , and it was a joke. How the hell it was treated as seriously as it was IS a question worth looking at but that doesn't make the DJs responsible for the inept way their questions were answered.
 
SteveOBHave said:
It's one thing to have empathy for the woman, it's a whole other thing to then contextualise everything else in the situation on the basis of this overreaction. I'm not sure what it is that you're expecting from me. Yes it's sad that she felt that death was her only option, but the roll on effect of this will taint many peoples lives for years to come. My empathy is spent on those that need it.
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You quite clearly need to look up the term empathy
 
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It had no impact on anyones career. The phone call was made "as a joke" , and it was a joke. How the hell it was treated as seriously as it was IS a question worth looking at but that doesn't make the DJs responsible for the inept way their questions were answered.
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Some people may focus on the act itself and not the motives for committing that act.
 
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It had no impact on anyones career. The phone call was made "as a joke" , and it was a joke. How the hell it was treated as seriously as it was IS a question worth looking at but that doesn't make the DJs responsible for the inept way their questions were answered.
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I acknowledged that it didn't have an impact on their career. However, the people at the radio station didn't know that would be the case when they broadcast it. They had to be aware that it could cause the nurses a fair bit of grief. The fact that it was intended as a joke isn't particularly relevant. They shouldn't put people in that position. They should certainly ask for permission before broadcasting it.
 
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Stokesy said:
A harmless prank call in which they tried to get people to divulge confidential information. A harmless prank that puts the victim is a position where she may break the law and open herself up to disciplinary procedures.

The fact that the hospital chose not to discipline them is irrelevant. The people that run the radio station didn't know this when they recorded it and they didn't know it when they broadcast it. They decided that a few cheap laughs at someone else's expense and the resulting publicity was more important than the potential impact on the nurse's careers. If they had asked permission before broadcasting it they would have been told to get lost.
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I'm not sure I get your point. Had the nurses followed correct proceedure then they would. Have nothing to worry about. I've never suggested that the radio station should be absolved of responsibility but that the reaction was disproportionate.
 
SteveOBHave said:
I'm not sure I get your point. Had the nurses followed correct proceedure then they would. Have nothing to worry about. I've never suggested that the radio station should be absolved of responsibility but that the reaction was disproportionate.
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You referred to it as "a harmless prank". This is not the case. It was an incredibly inconsiderate prank that had the potential to do a great deal of damage to the nurse's careers.

Obviously proper security procedures should have been followed, that isn't what I was commenting on.
 
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