Loyalty

[Tefal]

Ok everyone is taking the **** now.

<3

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

If I call you brother, family or friend, then I would die to defend you.

That sums up my stand on loyalty.

On their own, these words could be seen as melodramatic hyperbole from an Oreo munching keyboard warrior.

So it's good that they came from someone who means what they say. Good stuff, Castiel, good stuff.

 

[Morba]

Much better thank you. <3

 

[2bit]

On their own, these words could be seen as melodramatic hyperbole from an Oreo munching keyboard warrior.

So it's good that they came from someone who means what they say. Good stuff, Castiel, good stuff.

Superb!

 

[SkodaMart]

It's sometimes intresting to 'test' a friendship by asking a favour, one that you would be willing to undertake if the boot was on the other foot.

I have done this more than once and quite often I have been disappointed.

 

[2bit]

It's sometimes intresting to 'test' a friendship by asking a favour, one that you would be willing to undertake if the boot was on the other foot.

I have done this more than once and quite often I have been disappointed.

OK I'll proffer my boot.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

It's sometimes intresting to 'test' a friendship by asking a favour, one that you would be willing to undertake if the boot was on the other foot.

I have done this more than once and quite often I have been disappointed.

I think that says more about your misplaced loyalty and/or your friends than it does about loyalty itself. Isn't the essential part of loyalty that you would do something or be somewhere for someone, regardless of facts and expectations?

I don't think loyalty means that you're intrinsically a good person, I think it means that you will do whatever or help whoever or be wherever you need to be because you feel it's the right thing to do, because your beliefs tell you it's the right thing to do even if, dissected and rationalised, it makes little or no sense.

e : And this is why I liked Castiel's response. It's almost a state of mind and ignores the situation of the 'yeah but why should I care?' question. It's who you are and what you consider appropriate.

 

[SkodaMart]

I think that says more about your misplaced loyalty and/or your friends

I don't have any friends as such, certainly none I would die for.
Plenty of aquaintances, that I can have a good laugh with though.

 

[StriderX]

Loyalty is pointless, it rears its uselessness in times of personal gain when all your friends/family want your shiny stuff more than you do.

It is simply the way the world works now, society has diminished in its time of unfettered advancement.

 

[Castiel]

I don't have any friends as such, certainly none I would die for.
Plenty of aquaintances, that I can have a good laugh with though.

That sounds rather sad to me, I have several very close friends, some of whom I have known most of my life and some who through shared experience have become my brothers.....all of whom I would stand with and for regardless of the consequences. I also know they would do the same. It's difficult to explain the strength of feeling that exists between us without it sounding trite. As magnolia has said, there is no expressed rationality involved here, only a deep sense of shared trust, obligation, responsibilty and commitment.

 

[Cupra]

theres always a line someone can break that makes someone satop there loyalty even for a moment but im loyal till the line if that counts for anything

 

[Castiel]

theres always a line someone can break that makes someone satop there loyalty even for a moment but im loyal till the line if that counts for anything

Loyalty (to another person) is not a one way street..it is about a shared responsibility to each other. It's takes two to tango, so to speak.

 

[HangTime]

I don't regard myself as being particularly loyal but others might disagree. I think I tend to act in a fashion that others consider loyal but that isn't necessarily driven by loyalty.