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Kenai said:
Biggest difference, newsgroups require only downloading, torrents require you to upload too. More so private torrents, whereby you generally get given the heave ho if your ratio isn't good enough.

If you ever were to get busted, having been a supplier rather than just a consumer gives them an opportunity to bum**** you considerably harder.
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That £13 cost they will reclaim for the film downloaded is a real bum****...

We don't live in the US...
 
krooton said:
So using ITVplayer/4OD with adblock is just as bad then?
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Yes. It's where the majority of their money comes from. I have a feeling the advertisers aren't moaning about it though, if they were I doubt they'd let you watch the content with adblock running. In fact for many months a year or two ago adblock wasn't able to get around the 4od ads.

There are many people that think it's intrinsically wrong to have adblock running on any website. This is besides the point though, advertising pays for TV shows, this is a fact that is evident by advertising now seeping into the plot and dialogue: product placement. If you're no longer being advertised to, then the advertisers are no longer getting their moneys worth and they stop paying as much.
 
desires said:
Yes. It's where the majority of their money comes from. I have a feeling the advertisers aren't moaning about it though, if they were I doubt they'd let you watch the content with adblock running. In fact for many months a year or two ago adblock wasn't able to get around the 4od ads.

There are many people that think it's intrinsically wrong to have adblock running on any website. This is besides the point though, advertising pays for TV shows, this is a fact that is evident by advertising now seeping into the plot and dialogue: product placement. If you're no longer being advertised to, then the advertisers are no longer getting their moneys worth and they stop paying as much.
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But as a license payer, I can grab any BBC stuff seeing as I have contributed towards it?
 
krooton said:
But as a license payer, I can grab any BBC stuff seeing as I have contributed towards it?
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Doesn't really work that way.

You aren't entitled to the content just because you pay a licence fee to view it. Once something is no longer broadcast or available via catch up services, your only option would be to either rent or purchase the video.

I think it would be nice if BBC allowed programming (which isn't something that gets resold on video) to remain on iPlayer. I can only imagine the reason things get removed is because of the sheer cost involved in having the data live. I would think in future the BBC will eventually have their catalogue available to all.
 
Out of interest, has anyone been suffering from in-completion issues lately? Been finding quite a few things on Thundernews to be highly damaged.
 
krooton said:
But as a license payer, I can grab any BBC stuff seeing as I have contributed towards it?
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Nope. Part of a contract between a show and the BBC is that the BBC have the rights to it, this means they either get a cut from DVD sales or they bring it out the cupboard every xmas, this then draws viewers to their station and they pick up views on other shows that perhaps wouldn't have been seen otherwise.

Nexus said:
I think it would be nice if BBC allowed programming (which isn't something that gets resold on video) to remain on iPlayer. I can only imagine the reason things get removed is because of the sheer cost involved in having the data live. I would think in future the BBC will eventually have their catalogue available to all.
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There is talk of completely digitizing the archives and then for a cost allowing us to watch it whenever wherever. The cost apparently being for the increased cost in hosting. Although I think there was outrage at 'paying twice' for the same thing so it may have been shelved which is dissapointingly funny.

douche: We should have to pay for that twice, tv license is tax, blah blah blah
bbc: ok then you don't have it at all
douche: urm...ok, good?

Ghosteh said:
Out of interest, has anyone been suffering from in-completion issues lately? Been finding quite a few things on Thundernews to be highly damaged.
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It's DMCA takedowns not in-completion.
 
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Nexus said:
Doesn't really work that way.

You aren't entitled to the content just because you pay a licence fee to view it. Once something is no longer broadcast or available via catch up services, your only option would be to either rent or purchase the video.

I think it would be nice if BBC allowed programming (which isn't something that gets resold on video) to remain on iPlayer. I can only imagine the reason things get removed is because of the sheer cost involved in having the data live. I would think in future the BBC will eventually have their catalogue available to all.
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So how about if something is currently live on iPlayer, but you want a better quality version? Surely in terms of impact it is actually better for the BBC as you aren't using up any of their streaming bandwidth...
 
Ghosteh said:
Out of interest, has anyone been suffering from in-completion issues lately? Been finding quite a few things on Thundernews to be highly damaged.
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There has been a huge increase in automated DMCA takedown requests in the last couple of months.

Anything dodgy that is named correctly, is gimped within hours. Randomly named files tend to last a bit longer but obviously aren't really easily locatable with a regular nzb search site.
 
krooton said:
So how about if something is currently live on iPlayer, but you want a better quality version? Surely in terms of impact it is actually better for the BBC as you aren't using up any of their streaming bandwidth...
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Better for the BBC sure, better for the show? No, that's one less viewing figure which can be the difference between being renewed or canned.

I'm not actually completely sure if it's illegal, but it would definitely be illegal to be distributing it though so it shouldn't be available to you by these means anyway.
 
The NZBMatrix shut down made me take a look at shows I was getting online on Sky I was quite surprised that most of them are only 2-3 episodes behind the US airings. At least that situation has improved over the years. Still a shame tho.
 
desires said:
Better for the BBC sure, better for the show? No, that's one less viewing figure which can be the difference between being renewed or canned.

I'm not actually completely sure if it's illegal, but it would definitely be illegal to be distributing it though so it shouldn't be available to you by these means anyway.
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Nope, it's not illegal to download tv shows, nor is it illegal to download films... It's also not theft and FACT are just a trade federation that have banded together to try lie about it for their own benefit (Federation Against Copyright Theft... although they do also have legitimate points as well). They should actually be calling themselves FACIT (Federation Against Copyright Infringement) ;)

What you are actually talking about is probably still copyright infringement though, although it's on shaky ground in as much as you can record the exact same content for personal use anyway... (we're talking UK shown programmes)
 
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