Duchess of Cambridge's nurse has reportedly been found dead
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Not saying they are responsible for her death, but they are responsible for a) invasion of private matters b) trying to falsly use someone's identity to gain information
Doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for them as it could be two more individuals that are now going to face the pressure, but it was irresponsible as a radio station, as a team, as an individual to let this go to air in the first place.
Did they stop and think "what if this goes wrong?"
Faults were made on all parties in this incident, that's why it's hard to point a finger for blame.
Doesn't mean I don't feel sorry for them as it could be two more individuals that are now going to face the pressure, but it was irresponsible as a radio station, as a team, as an individual to let this go to air in the first place.
Did they stop and think "what if this goes wrong?"
Faults were made on all parties in this incident, that's why it's hard to point a finger for blame.
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Has anybody here ever rang an hospital ward for information on a patient because it is very easy to do.
Lets say you know somebody called John Smith is in Ward 76, all you do is ring the ward reception, tell them you are his brother and you want to know how he is and the staff will give bare minimum information like "He had a good night and just had his breakfast".
This is no way contravenes any data protection act or information and it happens 24/7.
It will be a sad time when staff say "Sorry Sir, you will have to come to the hospital with your passport and 2 other pieces of evidence before we tell you how your brother is".
Lets say you know somebody called John Smith is in Ward 76, all you do is ring the ward reception, tell them you are his brother and you want to know how he is and the staff will give bare minimum information like "He had a good night and just had his breakfast".
This is no way contravenes any data protection act or information and it happens 24/7.
It will be a sad time when staff say "Sorry Sir, you will have to come to the hospital with your passport and 2 other pieces of evidence before we tell you how your brother is".
Why is it absolutely OK to phone a Chinese takeway and not a reception? Consider the call in question to the receptionist. They made a single call, put on silly voices, and certainly didn't go digging for "confidential information". In all respects it was pretty innocuous stuff.
Now consider the myriad of other other prank calls where people are in someway the brunt of the joke. Listen to this for example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0TxfwB3BWQ
Does this guy sound like he's not being victimised? Repeated calls, over and over... Imagine if the guy in this pizza shop had committed suicide. We'd have exactly the same pitch fork mob running after this prank caller with their power of 20-20 self righteousness hindsight!
The only reason this matter is getting the undeserved attention it is getting, is because clearly a mentally unstable lady has unfortunately decided to commit suicide. She could have just laughed it off (as per Pizza man above) but instead committed suicide for some unknown reason.
Did the DJ's make a mistake? Possibly. Phoning a hospital about a royal is questionable. But in light of their appalling impressions and really not attempting to get any information it's clear it was meant as nothing more than a lighthearted prank.
Let's not crucify them due to a mentally unstable lady committing suicide.
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One could also add that since the hospital is apparently one where a lot of VIPs go for treatment, staff would have been used to getting nosey journalists et al calling to fish information. So it doesn't seem that this lady did anything wrong or was even deceived for patching the call through. She did not divulge information and I would presume it's the normal thing to do.
If anyone, it's the nurses fault for not checking the identity of the caller, albeit not really necessary in that case as she didn't give out any personal data.
Perhaps a tragic coincidence but I find it hard to apportion blame for her death to the pranksters. That said, those two DJs are awful in every way when ones looks at what they've been up to in the past.
Quite agree, an excellent post.
As somebody who's mum is in & out of hospital at the moment, I could not agree more.
Another point, I wish Keith Vaz MP would keep out of this, he criticises the hospital for not offering support yet that's precisely what they have already offered via the hospitals chief executive, via phone, last Friday. - can't stand the slimy ****! /rant
Sorry but that is not the way it should be. I related information to patients and their families verbally for them to notify their significant others. If that was not possible then I directly contacted the appropriate person using the recorded telephone number. Staff should be doing patient care not playing receptionist for families who should be well able to pass relevant information on themselves. There are plenty of situations where you would not want particular people to even know someone is on a specific ward let alone any details whatsoever.
Huh? How does paying the family show that they're guilty? That's like saying that because Sky supports a rainforest charity they're guilty of killing the rainforest.
Is it the radio station or the DJs paying it?
Source?
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Two questions.
1). If I tell someone a joke about a chicken crossing a road, and they commit suicide because of a traumatic childhood experience involving chickens, am I then responsible for their death?
2). If one (or both) of these DJs commit suicide because of the "pressure" who are the angry mob in this thread going to blame?
1). If I tell someone a joke about a chicken crossing a road, and they commit suicide because of a traumatic childhood experience involving chickens, am I then responsible for their death?
2). If one (or both) of these DJs commit suicide because of the "pressure" who are the angry mob in this thread going to blame?
And as per my post - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=23341131&postcount=647
If the Pizza guy who was the brunt of the prank calls committed suicide? Etc... Etc... Etc...
This is self righteous mob mentality gone mad! It was a prank... With an unforseen unfortunate outcome... Nothing more...
they are only paying because they know they are partly responsible. why else would they.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20673899
next step the DJs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20673899
next step the DJs
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Public perception. It matters not that they are not responsible (Which they are not), public perception is that they are. It is therefore fairly sensible PR to offer something to go someway towards changing the overwhelmining negative public perception that has resulted from this issue.
Lots of organisations will make payments for things they were not responsible for, for similar reasons.
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Do you think staff answering the main desk phone should not give any information out at all?
What about visitors turning up - should they be vetted before going into a patient?
I just think it's unworkable.
Are you saying you beleive there was nothing else in the nurses life that led her to her decision and it was solely because she transferred the call?
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Oh pull your head out of your rear end. It's called empathy and respect. It's moronic statements like this that seem to populate the comments sections of paper these days. "Hope they never work again", "They should be jailed", "hope they commit suicide themselves", "happy now, arrogant ozzies blah blah blah".
Yay - you thought up a blatantly ignorant sweeping statement and posted it on the interwebs - gave you a nice warm superior feeling did it?