Just can't decide

cu3ed said:
He said he really doesn't want to go to Droid yet somehow you need to look like you are helping but really just wanting to push Droid onto people, I'll always remember as you did the same in my threads even after countless times telling you I didn't want anything to do with Droid. Especially because I sold my SGS2 at the time as I hated it.

Im not defending his choice, or mine, or ruling out yours, just Droid users have a tough time admitting people don't like Droid cause its not very good to them.

Sorry for the butthurt.
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He didn't mention anything in the OP about android, so how are we suppose to know what exactly he wanted or didn't want? He first said he didn't want to get a nexus 4 in response to the 2nd poster, which could be for any reason i.e. glass back breaking easily, not a great camera, looks or not wanting to wait for a month or two to get it from play store, hence why I asked and then suggested that if he "didn't mind" android then he could take a look at the GS 3 LTE in the same post

Thus he replied he wasn't fussed on android and I asked in my second post for this thread, what it was he didn't like etc. for this reason:

Nexus18 said:
Reason I want to know (as well as being curious as to what it is he doesn't like about android) is because often, people aren't aware of what android is capable of etc. and if there is something that he doesn't like about android, chances are that he will be able to change it easily
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Hmm, pushing android onto people? Please explain further...

Usually reasons people don't like something about an android phone is due to the software skin, which can be easily changed with 3rd party apps from the market or because they have this thought that you "have" to root and flash ROMs in order for them to work well.

I think the only one here that is butthurt is you, this thread was going just fine until you came in with "your" butthurt responses, I am just correcting you and what you think about me and my posts.

Just because you hate android doesn't mean that infernox and everyone else will. Lol I couldn't care less if you or anyone else doesn't like android, yes, I love it and always will until there is another mobile OS that offers the same flexibility and choice as android, which windows and iOS most certainly don't offer.

I also post advice in other threads and often suggest windows phones too if the user definitely doesn't want android for a particular reason (not as much as I would for android based threads, because I am not as clued up with windows phones/software as I am with android phones/software).

PS I recommended my parents to get the nokia lumia 800 instead of android based phones because the android alternatives were crap so don't go onto me about being "close minded" essentially and if you look at the lumia 800 thread you will see that I was pretty impressed with it on the whole.
 
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cu3ed said:
So we now all have to explain to a forum member as to the exact reason and list our decisions?...that what this forum is about?, we cant just not like something?

Okay, lets take what would happen then...he goes on to list a lot of valid reasons as to why he does now want a Droid handset...what you think happens...we get a reasonable response of..."fair enough, valid points"...or will we get a host of replies stating as to how he is wrong and then explaining that Droid can do the things he has list, or why its better at them!?...which you think is more likely?
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If the reasons he lists are valid then I will say "fair enough" but if the reasons are something like:

- don't like the look of the software then I will mention about all the 3rd party apps and how you can change the phone to look the way he wants, this includes keyboards, browsers etc. if he prefers the look of iOS or windows then..........fair enough
- if he said something like the screen being crap, well I would just point to every expert review and comparisons, which would prove him wrong, same for the hardware
- if he says that windows and iOS just work out of the box where as android doesn't and you have to root and flash CR etc. then I will point him to many articles comparing the 3 and in fact android works just as well if not better out of the box than them and link this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1557484

If his reasons are that he doesn't want to have to mess around with installing apps, fragmentation with updates, the design/look of the phones then that is fair enough, personal preference.

I would agree with the disjointed feeling with a stock out of the box GS 3, not so much the nexus 4 though. But again I admit that windows and iOS does feel more unified throughout than android phones, but more and more apps etc. are now being updated to follow the same ICS style/UI.

cu3ed said:
This time just over a year ago, you specifically rubbished my idea to buy a L800 in a thread as I sold my SGS2.
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Have you got a link to that?

IIRC where you the one that was saying that the GS 2 was lagging badly, apps force closing and in which case I (and others) told you there was something wrong with your phone or you installed dodgy apps and/or messed with settings as every other GS 2 owner and expert reviewer have never had those problems.
 
His first response "really don't want one of those" was in response to someone suggesting a "nexus 4" not "what about an android phone" in which case his reasons for not wanting a nexus 4 could be:

glass back breaking easily, not a great camera, looks or not wanting to wait for a month or two to get it from play store
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And yes he did say about android being the reason, but as I and benjo etc. are asking, what is it about android that he doesn't like? For all we know, he might not like stock android for the same reasons as myself.
 
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Have you got a link to that?

IIRC where you the one that was saying that the GS 2 was lagging badly, apps force closing and in which case I (and others) told you there was something wrong with your phone or you installed dodgy apps and/or messed with settings as every other GS 2 owner and expert reviewer have never had those problems.
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I don't, typically, it was well over a year ago as that's when I got the phone.
Apps force closing etc where normal standard things, and common place, but I get that on some WP Apps, just the entire Droid experience was awful to me, all over the place, nothing felt unified about it.

Even after giving the Nexus 7 a go, it still felt outdated and shoddy, thats the best word I can think for it.
 
If you want an android experience with a unified feel throughout then HTC mobiles with sense V4 or higher are the best for that IMO, all the apps, widgets look/act the same and look nice/modern. Only reason I have replaced some of the sense apps is because I want more features or to change the appearance of the apps/homescreen.

Haven't had any major slow downs, apps force closing (apart from a few every now and then [3rd party apps]) on my one S and it has over 85 apps installed.
 
I should have added, I still wouldn't touch a Google product if I don't have too, although having to use Youtube, and hate that as well to be honest.
 
Just to let you know that the nexus 4 and GS 3 do just work out of the box very well, you don't "have" to install 3rd party apps to replace the stock phone, sms etc. apps or/and root etc. The majority of android users only configure/change stuff because they "want" to change the aesthetics, have more features, not because it is "needed"

But, if you don't want one and prefer iOS and windows, fair enough :)



Regarding the iphone 5 VS 820 camera, bit of a tough choice! Depends on what you want from it tbh. Both are very good, unfortunately I can't see any direct photo comparisons to get a good idea as to just how much of a difference there is between them, from just looking around at reviews, I would say the iphone 5 has the better video and photo quality overall, however, the 820 has more features and some very nice little tweaks. More details on them here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_820-review-854p7.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5-review-822p7.php

I doubt you would be disappointed with either really.

It will really come down to the mobile OS, if you want a lot of choice for apps then you can't beat iOS, windows will pick up gradually.

There is also quite a bit of a difference between the screens, iphone 5 being better that is.

You really need to have a good long play with both to decide.
 
Nexus18 said:
Just to let you know that the nexus 4 and GS 3 do just work out of the box very well, you don't "have" to install 3rd party apps to replace the stock phone, sms etc. apps or/and root etc. The majority of android users only configure/change stuff because they "want" to change the aesthetics, have more features, not because it is "needed"

But, if you don't want one and prefer iOS and windows, fair enough :)



Regarding the iphone 5 VS 820 camera, bit of a tough choice! Depends on what you want from it tbh. Both are very good, unfortunately I can't see any direct photo comparisons to get a good idea as to just how much of a difference there is between them, from just looking around at reviews, I would say the iphone 5 has the better video and photo quality overall, however, the 820 has more features and some very nice little tweaks. More details on them here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_820-review-854p7.php

http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5-review-822p7.php

I doubt you would be disappointed with either really.

It will really come down to the mobile OS, if you want a lot of choice for apps then you can't beat iOS, windows will pick up gradually.

There is also quite a bit of a difference between the screens, iphone 5 being better that is.

You really need to have a good long play with both to decide.
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Thanks :)
I think it is the price putting me off the iPhone 5. If they were the same price bracket I would go With the iPhone.

I have the money to getn either but it is justifying spending that amount on the iPhone when the 820 is a good phone as well at around £200 less.
 
One thing to bear in mind that the iPhone will be worth significantly more when you come to upgrade and sell on your old handset - so the extra cost only really needs to be paid once. It's the same rule that applies to buying Mac laptops etc, that the extra cost of the hardware is offset by the resale value of a previous purchase.
 
Caged said:
One thing to bear in mind that the iPhone will be worth significantly more when you come to upgrade and sell on your old handset - so the extra cost only really needs to be paid once. It's the same rule that applies to buying Mac laptops etc, that the extra cost of the hardware is offset by the resale value of a previous purchase.
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That is a really good point. I guess the lumia would have hardly any resale value in 12 months ? As windows phone is moving so quickly.

I went to a phone shop yesterday to see if they had iPhone 5 in stock. They said they had the iPhone 5 in stock, but could only sell the 64gb model over Christmas on pay as you go :mad:

I think it is going to be the iPhone 5. I think this will be the most hassle free option, that will just do what it does faultlessly.
So white or black ? I think the white as it won't show scratches so much and then it will have a better resale value in future.
 
Well it has taken me all Christmas to really decide.
Just placed an order for iPhone 5 in white with 02 £26 a month contract with unlimited calls,txt and 1gb data.

Now just got to wait for delivery date although it is in stock so shouldn't be long :)

Was thinking of getting a Tuff-Luv case for it what do you guys think of this
http://tuff-luv.com/phones/apple/ip...nius-case-cover-for-apple-iphone-5-brown.html
 
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