How have I taken the moral high ground?
Your God does not exist. You are mentally ill.
Again, ignoring the posts you cannot reply to that have shown you to be both a fool and a terri bad poster.
Will God accept you if you renounce religion?
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How have I taken the moral high ground?
Your God does not exist. You are mentally ill.
Again, ignoring the posts you cannot reply to that have shown you to be both a fool and a terri bad poster.
Believe in God = mentally ill? Great logic there pal. I suppose all those atheists who believe in aliens are mentally ill too then?
My truth says your truth is a lie - so how can your truth still be truth for me?
What post are you referring too?
Nothing daft about the statement at all. Of course the perpetrator gets the blame but the finger is often pointed at God too.
What do you do?
It's not like that's the only thing I do
Anyways, what I do is irrelevant, you're the one who made the point!
Best ignoring the hurf. Just throws out the mentally ill line every time! He also believes that without doubt God doesn't exist. It also seems that he doesn't even believe that the existence of God is possible.
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I see, thanks. I do think Christians ascribe far too much power to Satan, since he was only an angel, yet you blame him for making men do evil things, so you are attributing him with omniscience and omnipresence, attributes of god. How can he be in so many places and influencing so many people's behaviour at once?
The ones you conveniently ignored.
NOM8, I am perfectly willing to accept God could exist, I would first how ever, need some evidence.
Ok, thats a start.
Your claim was that "Your God does not exist". I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion?
Satan is not omnipresence. We must recognize that angels are higher-beings than us so are far greater than us. Satan has the power of multipresence, not omnipresence.
There is also another way of looking at it. In war, we attribute all hostile action to the leader. So in WWII, Hitler attacked....." when in fact subordinates acted at their leader's command. Many Christians have the same viewpoint on this unseen war.
Another thing, you say we are attributing Satan with omniscience but that's not true. Satan is not omniscient. I find nothing in the bible that would even suggest that.
So Aside from quoting Gervais and Asimov don't you have your own opinion on this?
You believe there is no God and suggested Jason2 is mentally ill for his alternative view.
Asimov states "I'll believe in anything... if there is evidence for it". Since you provided this quotation can I assume then that your belief that there is no God is built on some evidence?
Why would one presume to need evidence for something not existing?
I believe there's as much of a chance of a god existing as any other random make believe story, that is to say next to none. Evidence would change that, of which none exists.
I love this "give us evidence" line. You do know that Science operates on basic assumptions about our world? For example, science assumes that there are natural causes for things that happen in the world around us. I jump up in the air, I fall back to down to earth. Science assumes that there is natural explanation for why I fall back down once I'm in the air. They call this mavity, yet what mavity is exactly remains elusive. Science also assumes that evidence from the natural world can be used to learn about those causes.
So you see, Science has its fair share of assumptions of the world around us.
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Omniscient as in "knows everything". He must know who you are, where you are and what you are thinking if he is going to somehow influence the outcome right?
What are you smoking? mavity isn't elusive at all, it's all around us, it has an effect on everything and we can estimate it's force anywhere we can see mass in the universe.
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Stupidest post ever!!
By the way those basic assumptions are called !FACTS!
Can't we ban religious threads now please, it's been done to death. I mean pedobear got banned and he showed up less.
There is nothing to add to this argument. No one side is ever going to suddenly change there beliefs.
Just give it a rest before Castiels fingers bleed.
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Shhh he's "educated"!
Hurf, seriously, use spoilers mate!!!
Jason2, you do have to see where Hurf's coming from, you've ignored quite a few difficult questions in this thread, it really is exasperating!
As for being mentally ill, that's just a stupid point. He has every right to believe what he believes. His theory that there's a God and there's Satan is all well and good, I have no problems with it. What I do have problems with is when he says it as a fact.
Yes, mavity is something we don't know the nature of, and it is a theory (a pretty damn convincing, pretty much proven one!), however, as someone posted earlier, with science, we form theories and we then look for facts to back up our theories. If we find something contradicting, we may have to throw those theories out of the window and start again. This is something that religion doesn't really tend to do.
I'll believe in stuff when I see convincing evidence for it. Some people see our lives themselves as reasonable evidence that there's a God in the same way I see myself being brought back down to Earth when I jump as evidence for mavity. Please religious people,. please don't portray things in the bible as fact, that's when we start all these silly arguments and get the handbags out :/
Jason2, you do have to see where Hurf's coming from, you've ignored quite a few difficult questions in this thread, it really is exasperating!
As for being mentally ill, that's just a stupid point. He has every right to believe what he believes. His theory that there's a God and there's Satan is all well and good, I have no problems with it. What I do have problems with is when he says it as a fact.
Yes, mavity is something we don't know the nature of, and it is a theory (a pretty damn convincing, pretty much proven one!), however, as someone posted earlier, with science, we form theories and we then look for facts to back up our theories. If we find something contradicting, we may have to throw those theories out of the window and start again. This is something that religion doesn't really tend to do.
I'll believe in stuff when I see convincing evidence for it. Some people see our lives themselves as reasonable evidence that there's a God in the same way I see myself being brought back down to Earth when I jump as evidence for mavity. Please religious people,. please don't portray things in the bible as fact, that's when we start all these silly arguments and get the handbags out :/