Whats the Crucial M4 of the moment?

Concorde Rules said:
You have very specialist apps there... so 'real world' is still different for most other people on this forum...

99% of people will not be able to tell the difference between the M4, 830 or 840 Pro. Period. I can't tell the difference between a X25-M 160GB, a 320 300GB and my 830 256GB beyond benchmarks...

I went for the 830 because compare to the M4 simply because they were roughly the same price but anandtechs benches (http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/355?vs=532) seemed to be on the whole slightly better.

Recommending people to spend ~£40 more on a device for no noticeable benefit is madness.

840 256GB = £144
830 256GB = £149
M4 256GB = £150
840 Pro 256GB = £191
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exactly

intel
Samsung
Crucial

just go for which ever is the cheapest
 
Concorde Rules said:
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+1 - Concorde Rules is right on the money here.

You are not an average user Subliminal Aura, your "real world" apps are not those that 99% of average users will have even heard about, let alone use on a day to day basis. Yet your advice to ignore the M4 because it isn't current gen is based directly off your experiences with these niche applications. Those reading your advice are much more likely to be a true average user, they won't see the real world benefits and will be paying more for these drives.
 
For someone with "bang per buck" in their sig, you sure do miss the point of that statement. For those not running benchmarks all the time, or specialist applications then you are spending more "buck" and getting the same noticable "bang" in the "real world". :p ;)

£40 odd extra on a Sub £200 purchase is a huge amount for most people...
 
Well I run the same SSDs as you, the ONLY reason I thought personally it was worth it was the warranty. Sure it is nice to see 1000MB/s in synthetic benchmarks, but has that made a noticeable difference to my system? Not really.

For the money, the M4 is a solid drive for 99% of people, that is what it comes down to. It will be down the individual whether they think that extra expense is justified, but they need to be presented with all the facts in a clear and concise way. Will you see noticeable benefits in day to day use, not likely. Would that money be better spent elsewhere in a system if I'm on a budget, quite likely.
 
Didn't they bring in TRIM on Raid 0 with the latest Rapid Storage drivers?

I do honestly think people worry about it too much when it comes to Raid SSDs. It would take months and months of huge transfers and throughput to reduce to it down to single drive figures.
 
Ahh I must have missed that. Out of interest, how were you checking that TRIM was enabled before and after the O-ROM flash? Using the DisableDeleteNotify query or another way?

I'm wondering if it gives a false positive with Raid 0 SSDs, as I currently get a 0.
 
Speed said:
Ahh I must have missed that. Out of interest, how were you checking that TRIM was enabled before and after the O-ROM flash? Using the DisableDeleteNotify query or another way?

I'm wondering if it gives a false positive with Raid 0 SSDs, as I currently get a 0.
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That only tells you that the OS is sending TRIM commands whether the driver and controller do anything with them is a completely different issue.

You can look out for a guide that shows how to use HxD to check that TRIM is working but it's tedious. I have a nice script for Linux though but that's probably not going to be of use to you.

EDIT// This guy has written a guide but I can't seem to find it now http://www.win-lite.de/wbb/board208...m-modules-for-bios-modding-already-extracted/
 
Yeah I was just doing some reading and came across that very point. I would hope that Asus will finally get round to sorting it out properly at some stage though, since Intel seem to officially support it on 7 series chipsets.
 
I bought an M4 about 1.5 years ago, great drive.

I recently bought another, based on the fact Crucial maintain the firmware, has a good reputation and hasnt let me down.

One thing I will say tho, is I can see a huge difference in speed in the two drives.

One is connected via SATA2 and the cpu is a Qx9650, whilst the other is Sata3 and the cpu is a 3570k.

The difference is very noticable!
 
opethdisciple said:
I bought an M4 about 1.5 years ago, great drive.

I recently bought another, based on the fact Crucial maintain the firmware, has a good reputation and hasnt let me down.

One thing I will say tho, is I can see a huge difference in speed in the two drives.

One is connected via SATA2 and the cpu is a Qx9650, whilst the other is Sata3 and the cpu is a 3570k.

The difference is very noticable!
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If they're both Sata3 drives then the one connected to sata3 will be twice a quick lol so yes you should be able to notice it.
 
Subliminal Aura said:
:) LOL Actually that is one expense that I thought was worth it.

I also run a pair of 64gb Crucial M4s in RAID0 if that's going to help me win my signature back :)
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that's y the 840 is loads better.

you do realise the 64GB M4 has rubbish write times. only 110MB/s

as soon as you go to the 128GB it has 220MB/s

And the 256GB has 300MB/s.

But saying that you don't normally write lots to SSd's its read speeds that are important.

Samsung 128GB 840 read speed = Sequential Read: 530MB/s
crucial M4 128Gb read= Sequential Read (up to): 550MB/sec (SATA 6Gb/s)
 
The M4 is still a great drive to get. It's a proven drive in both speed and reliability. Recently picked up a good deal on 256GB to go with my 128GB.

Most people in 'day to day' working aren't likely to be able to tell the difference when it comes to the read/write speeds. It's only when you are benching or running specialist programs.

I'd look at drives from Crucial, Samsung & Intel.
 
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