Unemployed obese people - start losing weight or lose your benefits

[mad4jags]

It's not even getting to the route course and I somewhat disagree its life style. Exercise can not burn huge amounts of energy, it isn't good for getting rid of cravings etc.

I'm inclined to disagree with that load of faff
I covered a 64 mile cycle this afternoon,and according to my cycling computer I burned 3550 calories...and all in the space of 3 hours.
That's over 1000 calories MORE than the average male's DAILY intake,so forgive me for sounding stupid here,but how can you NOT lose weight when you exercise and eat healthily?????
Of course it's down to lifestyle,Mr(or Mrs) Fatty,spending their time shovelling in handfulls of chips and other fat laden,microwave ready convienience foods,perhaps washing the whole lot down with a couple of gallons of "diet" coke for good measure,combined with sitting on their backsides,glued to the Jeremy Kyle show,just smacks of poor lifestyle.

 

[Glaucus]

So you going to do that several times a week?

Exercise does not burn a lot of calories, eating is the bigger picture.
And not just calories, it's what you eat as well. It's well knowen sugar and carbs amongst other things incite cravings and blood sugar level spiking.

It's not to sea exercise won't help, but exercise will not do anything, if your eating loads.
And eating certain things will give you cravings and make you eat more, unless you have massive will power every day.

It's far more complicated than less calories equal weight loss. As although that's true, it doesn't look at how easy it is to achieve or stumbling blocks.

 

[Cleeecooo]

so you're saying a biological process is "physics" sorry but that bit alone makes your whole argument invalid

Oh deary me...

That post was so full of fail, I'm in physical pain

It's far more complicated than less calories equal weight loss. As although that's true, it doesn't look at how easy it is to achieve or stumbling blocks.

I'd disagree with you on that one. To lose weight, your net calories needs to be a negative number. (net cals being calorie intake-calories burned by life processes and exercise)

That's what's needed to lose weight, having a healthy lifestyle is different IMO.

 

[mad4jags]

Even an hour spend cycling per day will shed you around 1000 calories,and I do this most evenings.
I agree that diet plays a major part in things,but to dismiss exercise as not helping is just plain daft.
If this was the case then we would all plant our arses on the sofa and watch the weight fall off....I don't think so somehow.
Cant understand why Bradley Wiggins was consuming over 7000 calories a DAY during the Tour de France,and he still only weighed 75kg...yet Fatty Carbunkle loads himself up with the same amount and gets fatter????
Must be the exercise!!

 

[MrMoonX]

Even an hour spend cycling per day will shed you around 1000 calories,and I do this most evenings.
I agree that diet plays a major part in things,but to dismiss exercise as not helping is just plain daft.
If this was the case then we would all plant our arses on the sofa and watch the weight fall off....I don't think so somehow.
Cant understand why Bradley Wiggins was consuming over 7000 calories a DAY during the Tour de France,and he still only weighed 75kg...yet Fatty Carbunkle loads himself up with the same amount and gets fatter????
Must be the exercise!!

Acknowledging the science fail earlier

1000 Calories an hour of cycling I dont think so! unless you are massive

I dont even burn that running for an hour which uses a lot more calories than cycling. Today I ran just over an hour a distance of 7 miles my Garmin says ive used approximately 809 calories, I weigh 85kg so not that light!

 

[wkingsnorth]

so you're saying a biological process is "physics" sorry but that bit alone makes your whole argument invalid

genetics does come into as some people have a different Basic metabolic rate, based on genetics

Energy is never created or destroyed, only transferred. Therefore, if you take in less energy (calories) than you use, you must get the energy from somewhere, namely your body fat reserves.

 

[Cleeecooo]

Even an hour spend cycling per day will shed you around 1000 calories,and I do this most evenings.
I agree that diet plays a major part in things,but to dismiss exercise as not helping is just plain daft.
If this was the case then we would all plant our arses on the sofa and watch the weight fall off....I don't think so somehow.
Cant understand why Bradley Wiggins was consuming over 7000 calories a DAY during the Tour de France,and he still only weighed 75kg...yet Fatty Carbunkle loads himself up with the same amount and gets fatter????
Must be the exercise!!

The internet seems to think 600-750 is a more appropriate number of calories burned for cycling for an hour.

 

[mad4jags]

According to my Garmin,covering a distance of 20 miles in just over an hour,slightly hilly terrain,with a cadence of around 60-70 rpm and weighing 80kg,I shed 967 calories.
As to how accurate Garmin are with this is debatable,but its the figure it gives me none the less.

 

[Glaucus]

Even an hour spend cycling per day will shed you around 1000 calories,and I do this most evenings.
I agree that diet plays a major part in things,but to dismiss exercise as not helping is just plain daft.
If this was the case then we would all plant our arses on the sofa and watch the weight fall off....I don't think so somehow.
Cant understand why Bradley Wiggins was consuming over 7000 calories a DAY during the Tour de France,and he still only weighed 75kg...yet Fatty Carbunkle loads himself up with the same amount and gets fatter????
Must be the exercise!!

Oh yeah as a normal person can and is going to maintain that amount of exercise, oh wait maybe not.
Also look at what they eat.

Exercise can not undo a bad diet.
It is unfesable to think people can do that amount of exercise.
It is also unthinkable for most people to burn off the extra calories with just exercise.

 

[Efour]

Pathetic with no willpower . The lot of them. Won't be long before lack of willpower or discipline would also be recognised as a medical disease.

whilst i agree with you, im not exactly thin myself, couldn't having no willpower be described as a disease or mental issue?

If like youu say 99.9% of fat people suffer from this "disease" wouldn't it be more prudent to spend money researching a confidence/willpower enhancing drug or maybe sessions with a professional mental health adviser to cure the problem at the source?

like most of these "bash a fatty, make your own sad life seem better" threads rarely does anyone suggest intelligent and workable solutions to the perceived problem.