BMW and M Power Owners
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[TW]Fox;23571777 said:It is a bargain for what it is, I agree. Just hope you've gone for the correct options, no tomtom stuck on the dash
it would be stoopid to pay almost 2k extra on a pro satnav right now when the updated one is due in March for the 1 series,
so glad I decided no to on mine, 5" Garmin sits nicely on the central iDrive screen with a home made mount
Thats irrelevent surely, sitting in the car without it for 3 years going 'Never mind, a new version was coming out that I've not got either' is hardly likely is it?
And new versions of iDrive/Nav don't have a devaluing effect on existing cars on the used market, so really the only relevent point is that it might be worth hanging on for it if you want nav, but it isnt a reason not to spec it.
Ah, so really its just purchase jusitification, fair enough
Sticking things with home made mounts to 30 grand cars, madness. Does it obscure the iDrive screen? Bet that looks lovely, not.
[TW]Fox;23578273 said:Thats irrelevent surely, sitting in the car without it for 3 years going 'Never mind, a new version was coming out that I've not got anyway' is hardly likely is it?
Ah, so really its just purchase jusitification, fair enough
neither, its a complete waste of money, technology will overtake the BMW satnav many times in 3 years
might have been a valid point 5 years ago but portable devices like Nexus 7 for a tenth of the price laughs in the face of people with more money than sense
or get a hard on for a few fancy graphics
you probably qualify for both
I use the satnav periodically, the need to know where I am 100% of the time gets very boring, again you qualify for that too
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[TW]Fox;23578031 said:
lol, no ... i THROW the M3 around but I would NOT throw an M5 around. So a difference in (subjective) chuckability. No doubt the M5 is engineered to the max and can no doubt be thrown around like nobodys business in the right hands, but it aint no 911/M3/RS4.
Epic epic car, but not sure if it's an 'event' to drive.
But in a fixed environment like a car this is fairly irrelevent? It wont stop doing things. The Navigation in my 335i was at the point I bought it already 2.5 year old tech yet it didn't stop it being fantastic with a great interface. It convinced me of how great integrated tech really is. I think you over-estimate just how quickly tech like this moves and you completely overlook the fact it's increasingly likely to platue in the future. You get to the point where there isn't much more you can add or refine.
Plus the extra stuff you can get to go with it is brilliant. The level of integration with iOS devices is fantastic and is pretty good future proofing - being able to run apps from your phone on it is pretty good, no?
I'm sure you've got an iPad which, screen resolution aside is still fundamentally the same product it was 3 years ago for example...
Why would you want a Nexus 7 in your car unless you drive a 1999 Mondeo and wish to drag it kicking and screaming into the 21st century? Car interiors look totally crap with random portable devices strewn about the place making up for a lack of a properly integrated system.
Integration is fantastic.
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I wouldn't be suprised if it's better than an RS4 in every possible way.
It certainly was for me. I absolutely loved it
To back Fox up here i strongly hold the opinion that the lack of navigation will seriously dent the resale prospects of any higher end car. The idea that anything beyond a basic Insignia or something could be desirable without it, is something i cannot relate to.
To echo the opinions of some others, I would simply ignore a car for sale without an infotainment system such as the pro navigation. Hardly anybody wants to stick stupid portable gadget crap onto mounts in their higher end vehicle.
To echo the opinions of some others, I would simply ignore a car for sale without an infotainment system such as the pro navigation. Hardly anybody wants to stick stupid portable gadget crap onto mounts in their higher end vehicle.
I see the advantage and understand your points but I refuse to pay £2k for software which still isn't up to the standard it should and needs to be.
It's also funny how the majority of people saying spec it up, aren't the ones rushing out with their own cash to get it.
I am reliably informed by someone on this forum who works for Glass' that the additional TCO will likely be minimal over your likely ownership of the vehicle.
So whats the point? its a win win, and in the meanwhile you suffer with a car with barely more to it than a 10 year old vauxhall would have. A car comes down not to purchase price, not to its running costs, but down to its total TCO over a set term. In your case the TCO would not have been altered by much if at all.
So whats the point? its a win win, and in the meanwhile you suffer with a car with barely more to it than a 10 year old vauxhall would have. A car comes down not to purchase price, not to its running costs, but down to its total TCO over a set term. In your case the TCO would not have been altered by much if at all.
It isn't just software, its hardware too including a nicer screen. I agree that at £2k it seems like poor value but it isn't £2k really, it's £2k minus whatever you get back for it come resale time which may or may not be £2k but certainly wont be £0. At the moment most of the AUC M135i's have nav. Even you have to admit that if there are 10 cars with nav and 1 without you are hardly going to pay the same money for the one missing it? You are either going to buy the nav fitted one, as its a no brainer if its the same price, or if you genuinelly don't care you'll use this fact to negotiate a much keener price on the car without it fitted.
Cars without desireable options are cheaper used than cars with them. Thats why my 335i was such a good deal - every other 335i of a similar age had the bigger wheels, bluetooth phone and an automatic box as fitted options. Mine had none of these. It was therefore less desireable and thousands of pounds cheaper. Nav has just as big an effect - infact at the time Glass's reported that cars without Pro Media pack were worth £2000 less at 3 years old. So if you'd bought one new and spec'd nav, it would have effectively been free of charge over your 3 years of ownership.
Cars without desireable options are cheaper used than cars with them. Thats why my 335i was such a good deal - every other 335i of a similar age had the bigger wheels, bluetooth phone and an automatic box as fitted options. Mine had none of these. It was therefore less desireable and thousands of pounds cheaper. Nav has just as big an effect - infact at the time Glass's reported that cars without Pro Media pack were worth £2000 less at 3 years old. So if you'd bought one new and spec'd nav, it would have effectively been free of charge over your 3 years of ownership.
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How is the manual version? I don't no whether to go for the auto or not. I would like to test drive both and see what I think to be honest. Not test driving one until I'm ready to buy though.
It's a hot hatch, IMHO the manual is probably best suited to the car.
