So the moon landing was faked!

csmager said:
Yes, but to do that you've have to send something to the moon to relay signals, as I suggested. Else the radio operators would know it wasn't where it was meant to be.

You've then got the problem that if you don't land it, it's going to go out of range as it orbits the moon.
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Yeah, but the Soviets and USA have sent unmanned things to the Moon from 1962. Sending unmanned probes and sending a manned flight are two completely different kettles of fish and it would be not in-conceivable to be able to fake an unmanned flight as a manned flight which is where most of the CT stuff gets very tricky as most believers will argue 'Look at the stuff on the Moon though!' whilst not realising it doesn't need a manned flight to do it...
 
Sliver said:
Buzz Aldrin once punched a guy in the face for accusing him of not going to the moon. Personally, I'd like to see all conspiracy nuts receive a knuckle sandwich.
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Why? What makes you angry about someone with an alternative view?

The guy who verbally abused Buzz Aldrin deserved what he got, irrespective of whether the conspiracy is true or not.
 
doofer said:
Yeah, but the Soviets and USA have sent unmanned things to the Moon from 1962. Sending unmanned probes and sending a manned flight are two completely different kettles of fish and it would be not in-conceivable to be able to fake an unmanned flight as a manned flight which is where most of the CT stuff gets very tricky as most believers will argue 'Look at the stuff on the Moon though!' whilst not realising it doesn't need a manned flight to do it...
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What makes a manned flight to the moon unfeasible where a completely autonomous flight is not?

If anything I would have said the unmanned flight was more difficult to achieve :p
 
doofer said:
Yeah, but the Soviets and USA have sent unmanned things to the Moon from 1962. Sending unmanned probes and sending a manned flight are two completely different kettles of fish and it would be not in-conceivable to be able to fake an unmanned flight as a manned flight which is where most of the CT stuff gets very tricky as most believers will argue 'Look at the stuff on the Moon though!' whilst not realising it doesn't need a manned flight to do it...
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Given the state of computer technology in the 60s, I'd think that a complicated unmanned flight such as the one suggested would almost be harder than a manned version. Although the manned version is pretty dangerous, it's a lot easier to have someone up there pressing buttons and inputting navigational information based on star locations into the basic computer than trying to do everything automatically or remotely.

Even relatively recently we've managed to smash unmanned craft into the surface of Mars...
 
doofer said:
Yeah, but the Soviets and USA have sent unmanned things to the Moon from 1962. Sending unmanned probes and sending a manned flight are two completely different kettles of fish and it would be not in-conceivable to be able to fake an unmanned flight as a manned flight which is where most of the CT stuff gets very tricky as most believers will argue 'Look at the stuff on the Moon though!' whilst not realising it doesn't need a manned flight to do it...
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You believe the hundreds of hand picked rock samples taken from different parts of the lunar landscape were collected with a robot? In 1969? Or they managed to get lucky and things like the genesis rock were just picked up all in one place wherever this probe randomly landed?
 
Comical stuff, some people really are nuts.

Gotta admit its one heck of a coverup, I mean thousands of people involved and no-one has slipped up in conversation since.

I honestly think the people who think the landings didn't happen are seriously disrespectful.
 
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Jeeze it's scary what people choose to believe sometimes, really it is.

The lunar landing is visible today on the moon through satellite imagery, what is found in the imagery perfectly represents the first lunar landing missions, the exact tracks are literally visible today even the flag in the dirt is visible today.

Despite the fact robotics have only recently became complex enough to carry out intricate missions, is doofer trying to suggest we had robotics sophisticated enough in 1969 to carry out the entire moon landing mission as well as faking footprints and even stabbing a flag in dirt?

Honestly it's scary what people choose to believe, madness.
 
gillywibble said:
Why? What makes you angry about someone with an alternative view?

The guy who verbally abused Buzz Aldrin deserved what he got, irrespective of whether the conspiracy is true or not.
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I'm not generally angry about people with alternative views. I do, however, get angry with conspiracy nuts and their fallacious, pernicious and flawed arguments. They waste everybodys time and insult and offend many people in the process.
 
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I know I've asked hoax believers on here before about this, but it'll stand the repeat.

Apollos 8, 10 and 13 also went out to the Moon (8 and 10 orbited, 10 sent the LM close to the surface, and we all know what happened with 13 because Ron Howard and Tom Hanks told us ;)). Were they faked as well? If so, why on Earth would they fake a failed mission in 13? All you're doing with that is showing the world that your supposedly brilliant moonship is about as reliable as an Edsel. Pure gold for the Soviet Union during the Cold War.

And if we do believe that 13 was faked, then how did they fake the socking great cloud of oxygen that independent witnesses saw through telescopes when pointing them at where 13 was in the sky at ~56hrs into the mission?

All this fakery must have been bloody difficult. I reckon it would have been easier to just go to the God-damned Moon in the first place....
 
Sliver said:
I'm not generally angry about people with alternative views. I do, however, get angry with conspiracy nuts and their falacious flawed arguments. They waste everybody's time and insult and offend many people in the process.
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I'm not trying to offend anyone. I'm just a cynic.
 
doofer said:
I'll just leave this here..

http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/lunarform/landing.html
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You are still missing the point.
NASA would have had to setup the unmanned craft to transmit 3 astronauts voices from that exact place in space.
If it was being sent from Earth first to the craft and transmitted from there then somebody would have noticed it.
I think this is how they found out in the film Capricorn One.
 
doofer said:
I'll just leave this here..

http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/lunarform/landing.html
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Massive difference between scooping some dirt and carrying out something as complex as faking footprints at complex distances and angles.

So do you believe the footage of the astronauts on the surface were robots that can freely walk with 2 legs or is that studio footage?

If it's studio footage howcome the surroundings, footprints, rover tracks and flag position all accurately match what we can see on the moon today?

That kind of precision would be extremely difficult even today, let alone how accurately the footage depicts the conditions we would expect on the moon.
 
I'm not sure who's worst, the die hard conspiracy theorists or the die hard believers....

One thing that always bugged me, why did NASA not allow any tv station to broadcast live. Instead they made everyone watch tv from cameras filming a crappy tv. Something's a bit fishy :-). .....it's a amazing way to hide every detail till it can be edited to perfection

Fluke runs after throwing grenade in thread
 
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