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it's not worth trying to change opinions on this. I think that people need to stop and take a step back and have a good long think when they are that passionate about losing the old start menu - it's just a massive waste of energy and i don't care any more.

the windows 8 start screen is:
- No less intuitive than the old start menu
- No less functional than the old start menu
- No harder to use than the old start menu.

It's.Just.Different....And whilst there are some bizarrely over-complicated features in windows 8 (full shut down), this is really nothing to do with the start screen itself and fingers crossed those little things will be ironed out in time.

It's about time people got over their irrational hatred of metro. Either buy in to it or don't but please calm down the diatribe, it's nonsense.

Well said that man!
 
it's not worth trying to change opinions on this. I think that people need to stop and take a step back and have a good long think when they are that passionate about losing the old start menu - it's just a massive waste of energy and i don't care any more.

the windows 8 start screen is:
- No less intuitive than the old start menu
- No less functional than the old start menu
- No harder to use than the old start menu.

It's.Just.Different....And whilst there are some bizarrely over-complicated features in windows 8 (full shut down), this is really nothing to do with the start screen itself and fingers crossed those little things will be ironed out in time.

It's about time people got over their irrational hatred of metro. Either buy in to it or don't but please calm down the diatribe, it's nonsense.

Then why are you posting?
 
I have no irrational hatred of Metro. Nowhere have I said that it sucks. I quite like it, in fact. I just cannot get my head around the point of having both a tiled start screen (which is basically a nicer looking desktop) and a desktop.

If I could somehow disable one or the other I would be happy. As it stands, I cannot and I believe my install is also corrupt as all I want to do is a simple refresh, and I can't change any PC settings.

Can you get your head around all the other versions of Windows have a start menu and you can launch programs and settings from it.
 
Then why are you posting?

Because I was summing up my feelings on the start screen and the hysteria surrounding it. I surprised that needed explaining......


Point was, I'm done,other people should get over it. This isn't the 'windows 8 start screen' thread and there's a lot more to windows 8 than just metro/it doesnt have a start menu.
 
Because I was summing up my feelings on the start screen and the hysteria surrounding it. I surprised that needed explaining......


Point was, I'm done,other people should get over it. This isn't the 'windows 8 start screen' thread and there's a lot more to windows 8 than just metro/it doesnt have a start menu.

No it just sounds like you no longer cared that people don't like Metro, but still feel the need to post the reasons why they should like it :confused:

Why should they get over it just to suit you? Just because you have rolled over and accepted a pointless change in the way applications are accessed in Windows desktop environments doesn't mean everyone else should.

It's clearly a big topic and is part of Windows 8 so it's not exactly unreasonable for it to be a big part of a Windows 8 thread.

I've stated clear reason why I don't like it, no one has provided me with any valid responses yet.
 
No it just sounds like you no longer cared that people don't like Metro, but still feel the need to post the reasons why they should like it :confused:

No, I did nothing of the sort. I only stated some facts, I never said you should like because of that. I dont care if you do/don't.

Why should they get over it just to suit you?.

No they should get over it because it's unlikely to change. I guess you missed the part where i said either buy it or dont. Again, don't care.

Just because you have rolled over and accepted a pointless change in the way applications are accessed in Windows desktop environments doesn't mean everyone else should

No, I had the same choice when i tried the first alpha that people still have now - buy it or dont - And I liked windows 8 even back then. the start menu? meh, it was different. I still used it the same way - most used stuff in jump menus, less frequent start on the start screen and everything else is searchable just buy typing the program name.....just like the old start menu.

Let's be honest, that's not rolling over and getting shafted is it?

It's clearly a big topic and is part of Windows 8 so it's not exactly unreasonable for it to be a big part of a Windows 8 thread.

it's a big topic for people who refuse to adapt. the rest of us don't care.

I've stated clear reason why I don't like it, no one has provided me with any valid responses yet.

And i don't care if you do or don't, that's YOUR choice. What i do care about, is the constant bickering and arguing over points that frankly we are all fully aware of and have been (in the case of most of us) since the dev preview release back in September 2011 and even earlier in some cases. It's hideously boring reading the same dross over and over in this thread and the masses of threads that have been created regarding the start screen (forum search function fail, clearly)... Some people seem to relish objecting to an idea and having people trying to change their minds, plenty of them in this thread. It's boring, do you understand now? :)
 
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No it just sounds like you no longer cared that people don't like Metro, but still feel the need to post the reasons why they should like it :confused:

Why should they get over it just to suit you? Just because you have rolled over and accepted a pointless change in the way applications are accessed in Windows desktop environments doesn't mean everyone else should.

It's clearly a big topic and is part of Windows 8 so it's not exactly unreasonable for it to be a big part of a Windows 8 thread.

I've stated clear reason why I don't like it, no one has provided me with any valid responses yet.

I'm neutral on Metro it has both good and bad points however looks like Microsoft will be giving us more customization options in Win9(Windows Blue) so I'm all for that,fact is I'm glad start button is gone,its been around since Win95 so was long over due IMHO to go the way of the dodo.
End of the day Win8 is more versatile then Win7 IMHO especially as a hybrid OS,most of the complaints are from desktop users but fact is you can work with Win8 quite well as a desktop user.

Bottomline Metro is here to stay and they are not bringing back the Start button even in the next OS so get over it guys (Microsoft have more or less confirmed this) ....I will say again glad its getting more customization, improvements in the next OS.
I may sound like a Win8 fan but DOS 6.22 was my first love,if I can get over DOS going way of the dodo for Windows I'm sure you guys can get over the old Start Button menu thats almost 20 years old.


For those upset about the lack of a start button in Windows 8, prepare yourself for another disappointment -- "Windows Blue", an upcoming short-cycle successor to Windows 8, is not expected to bring the feature back.

The source of this supposed leak is CNBeta, a site with close insider ties at Microsoft Corp. (MSFT), which gained respect by accurately leaking a number of early Windows 8 details.

Other info from the site includes suggests that Microsoft will further flatten the UI on the desktop (think the Metro/Windows 8 UI style), the taskbar/desktop will get tweaks, the price will be low (or free), and the new kernel version number will be v6.3 (corroborated by other independent reports). The final remnants of the Aero UI, which was a staple of Windows Vista and Windows 7 is also being bid adieu, like the Start button before it.

http://www.dailytech.com/Quick+Note+Start+Button+to+Stay+Dead+in+Windows+Blue/article29511.htm
 
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For those upset about the lack of a start button in Windows 8, prepare yourself for another disappointment -- "Windows Blue", an upcoming short-cycle successor to Windows 8, is not expected to bring the feature back.

Nobody expected them to bring the start button back.
 
Nobody expected them to bring the start button back.

I did not expect them to bring it back but obviously from the moans from some desktop users they did.


I find using Win+x Menu editor is more then enough.


http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.30


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I'd love to know how they propose to further 'flatten' the desktop because I'm not seeing much scope to do so. Unless they mean getting rid of the Vista/7 era icons and replacing them with metro style icons.

That would make a lot of sense actually.
 
I'd love to know how they propose to further 'flatten' the desktop because I'm not seeing much scope to do so. Unless they mean getting rid of the Vista/7 era icons and replacing them with metro style icons.

That would make a lot of sense actually.

There's subtle effects going on that you probably won't notice until they are taken away...
 
I have no irrational hatred of Metro. Nowhere have I said that it sucks. I quite like it, in fact. I just cannot get my head around the point of having both a tiled start screen (which is basically a nicer looking desktop) and a desktop.

If I could somehow disable one or the other I would be happy. As it stands, I cannot and I believe my install is also corrupt as all I want to do is a simple refresh, and I can't change any PC settings.

I don't understand this.

When you were using windows 7 did you disable the start menu or desktop and just use the one? If you didn't then it wouldn't make sense to want to disable one on Windows 8, they work in exactly the same way.
 
The difference is that the classic start menu was integrated into the desktop shell (explorer.exe), whereas Metro is a separate tablet friendly OS running separate to it.

If Metro adoption becomes widespread they can basically remove the explorer.exe and dictate that everyone uses only Metro which is a more controlled environment (hence developers anger towards Windows 8); and that's probably the reason why they're forcing Metro down everybody's throats and even shipping their server OS with it.
 
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The difference is that the classic start menu was integrated into the desktop shell (explorer.exe), whereas Metro is a separate tablet friendly OS running separate to it.

If Metro adoption becomes widespread they can basically remove the explorer.exe and dictate that everyone uses only Metro which is a more controlled environment (hence developers anger towards Windows 8); and that's probably the reason why they're forcing Metro down everybody's throats and even shipping their server OS with it.

The start screen is basically an overlay on the desktop (or the desktop is an overlay on the start screen). It really is no different to having the start menu functionality wise.

There are not 2 operating systems running at the same time.

Do you honestly think they would get rid of the desktop? Why would they? What would they gain? I can't see it happening.
 
as I said removing the desktop would not be a good move. because when you need open more than 1 program open at a time and need to see both at a time you wouldn't be able too.

how it is now it's great..
 
it's a big topic for people who refuse to adapt. the rest of us don't care.

Well you clearly do, otherwise you wouldn't keep rolling out this "refuse to adapt" rhetoric.

Newsflash - not liking something doesn't mean you're "refusing to adapt" to it. It just means you don't like it.

I don't see why this forum can't just have both Windows 7 and Windows 8 users who co-exist without bickering.
 
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