Windows 8 who's buying/upgrading

George Hincapie · 26 Jan 2013 at 20:51

dasyad said:
Think the idea is you use a picture of yourself

Why would I want to do that? It's bad enough having to look at my face in the mirror when I shave!

Surely there must be some some where?

nightmare99 · 26 Jan 2013 at 20:55

Do you always ask questions with obvious answers?

I think he meant to say "Why did you not research your purchase before upgrading?"

But anyways here are the answers to your questions

- retarded metro interface looks like a kids toy
This is the replacement for the start menu and the place where metro apps live, as soon as you log in you can just click the desktop tile or hit the windows key to jump straight to the desktop

- no start button
As above replaced by the start screen

- had to google to find out how to restart windows
Not sure why the answer is in this thread already

- still not sure how to launch programs without scrolling though a massive list of everything
This is the same as Windows 7 on the start screen just type the name of what you are looking for, if it is something you use frequently you can pin it to the start screen or the taskbar

- where have all my sidebar gadgets gone? these were brilliant
The sidebar is pretty much end of life, in fact I think they might have discovered a security flaw in it recently and recommended you stop using it on all windows

silversurfer · 26 Jan 2013 at 21:06

had to google to find out how to restart windows

lol microsoft is the original troll
Ive just noticed Ive still not bothered to do this myself, I never liked the start menu anyway but the best thing is very early on download something like ClassicShell or similar.
Theres not a massive difference from 7 to 8, metro is a paintjob

launch programs without scrolling though a massive list of everything

Im probably doing it wrong but I do Windows button together with Q then type the first few chars, press return. Notepad is win+q no+return

kitch9 · 26 Jan 2013 at 21:44

Are people really Incapable of figuring things out for themselves anymore so that they expect nothing to change?

Windows 8 has around half a dozen new things that need learning, (Including shut down procedures.) and as it's new it'll take a week or so to become habit forming like the decades of habit forming the old windows has had.

kitch9 · 26 Jan 2013 at 21:45

Are people really Incapable of figuring things out for themselves anymore so that they expect nothing to change?

Windows 8 has around half a dozen new things that need learning, (Including shut down procedures.) and as it's new it'll take a week or so to become habit forming like the decades of habit forming the old windows has had.

Not exactly the end of the world is it?

Woden · 26 Jan 2013 at 22:14

Minstadave said:
- no start button

Metro start screen (by pressing the windows key, same as win7) does the exact same thing as the start menu.

Minstadave said:
- had to google to find out how to restart windows

I call shenanigens. It is in literlary the same place as the shut down button ... right under it.

Minstadave said:
- still not sure how to launch programs without scrolling though a massive list of everything

Shenanigans. Start typing, on the start screen. exactly the same as win7 start menu.

Minstadave said:
- where have all my sidebar gadgets gone? these were brilliant

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Will give you that one.

V F · 27 Jan 2013 at 04:34

kitch9 said:
Are people really Incapable of figuring things out for themselves anymore so that they expect nothing to change?

Windows 8 has around half a dozen new things that need learning, (Including shut down procedures.) and as it's new it'll take a week or so to become habit forming like the decades of habit forming the old windows has had.

Not exactly the end of the world is it?

That made me think of the comment on Youtube...

scidhumouse100 said:
Who Killed Economic Growth?

Walk through a store and look at the people in the store. Ask yourself, what skills do they possess and how will they survive a shrinking resource base. Nobody wants to learn anything that's vital towards survival. Everything is given to this new generation. They are entitled. The market place will deliver the goods. Isn't that the way it works? Cell phones, cameras, electronics, and high tech comfort devices that help us socialize. Who needs to learn physics, math, science? Our society is soft

theheyes · 27 Jan 2013 at 10:44

Minstadave said:
Do you always ask questions with obvious answers?

Hey, I'm not the one who upgraded their OS to something they didn't like the look of. A few screen shots would have tipped you off that it looked 'retarded' and 'like a kids toy' in your opinion, and had no start menu.

And suddenly I'm captain obvious?

I guess then the answer is 'no' you didn't even do minimal research into what you were buying. Sorry you're not happy with your purchase, but buyer beware. Lesson learned.

And unless you took a backup image of the OS you upgraded from then unfortunately no it's not easy to roll back.

MOOGLEYS · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:05

You can still have sidebar gadgets on win 8. I cant remember how I did it but mine are all present and working.

MeatLoaf · 27 Jan 2013 at 11:58

MOOGLEYS said:
You can still have sidebar gadgets on win 8. I cant remember how I did it but mine are all present and working.

I used the utility from here

http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/ind...esktop-gadgets-and-sidebar-back-in-windows-8/

Minstadave · 27 Jan 2013 at 12:55

Woden said:
I call shenanigens. It is in literlary the same place as the shut down button ... right under it.

I couldn't find the shut down button, unless I'm doing something wrong I have to mouse to top right, down to settings, then power (which I thought would be power management options), then click restart. Seems very convoluted to me.

Shenanigans. Start typing, on the start screen. exactly the same as win7 start menu.

Except now the search results are seperated into apps/settings/files - so if I want to change sounds settings instead of just typing "sound" and hitting enter as its the first option, I have to type sound, then either use the keyboard or back to the mouse to change to settings then find the sound settings option.

To me the interface seems very backwards, we used to have start menu and desktop. Now we have metro, desktop, that funny right side bar, something else if you mouse top right, something on the left which holds open metro apps - it seems to be unintuitive.

The store appears to be an exercise in how to present the least possible information on screen at any one time.

And I really don't get apps vs. programs. So I want to install skype - do I install it as previously or do I dig through the store and install the app?

I'm all for progress, I've gone from XP->Vista->Windows 7 and each time the interface has felt cleaner and slicker. This feels like a mess though. And the fact there is no option to tidy it up, add a start button and hide metro feels very prescriptive. Yes you can use third party apps, but you shouldn't have to.

Minstadave · 27 Jan 2013 at 13:06

Found another annoyance, can't open windows update in a window as that's now been xbox-ified.

lcg · 27 Jan 2013 at 13:16

Minstadave said:
Found another annoyance, can't open windows update in a window as that's now been xbox-ified.

Control Panel > System and Security > Windows Update. It's the same as Windows 7.

Minstadave · 27 Jan 2013 at 13:21

Just found it. If you go via the metro page though it takes you to an app like view instead - pointless.

V F · 27 Jan 2013 at 14:38

Heh, keyboard rage.

Sometimes I don't know what's funnier, the fact some people detest change and those that rant at change but wont learn. How do you know older OS's weren't bad ways to begin with and we all took it as normal. Therefor things today appear screwed up to some people from bad habits that were a standard.

kitch9 · 27 Jan 2013 at 14:42

Minstadave said:
Found another annoyance, can't open windows update in a window as that's now been xbox-ified.

Right click bottom left corner of Desktop. It's only your ignorance causing the annoyance.

Chill, in a short while you'll figure out where the few bits of new stuff is, and realise that the rest of it is pretty much the same as its always been.

gareth170 · 27 Jan 2013 at 14:42

or right click on the flag (Action Center)

Zorgar · 27 Jan 2013 at 14:50

Windows 7 For my PC but got Windows 8 on my laptop because they dont sell Windows 7 Laptops anymore

In fact Windows 8 works great on this laptop - its only a duel core 1ghz c60 Cpu- And people who have it with Windows 7 Say its Runs realy slow. So Windows 8 works great

Thanks for reading

Minstadave · 27 Jan 2013 at 14:50

kitch9 said:
It's only your ignorance causing the annoyance.

Chill, in a short while you'll figure out where the few bits of new stuff is, and realise that the rest of it is pretty much the same as its always been.

My ignorance is telling me that they have pointlessly complicated what was a very simple OS in the form of 7, I don't see what has been achieved with all this junk. There are just so many fragmented menus and mouse-overs (top right/top left charms/side left app bar) I can't see the logic behind it. Can I get outlook to talk to metro's calendar - apparently not, as that calendar is actually hotmail's calendar - wtf?

I've used Windows for years, when I first tried iOS everything was intuitive so I'm not adverse to change, infact iOS was a breath of fresh air compared with android/windows mobile.

Win 8 just seems a mess to me. I could understand if they totally stripped out desktop and were consistent, but you've got metro with its apps and its own little side bar, you've got desktop with it's programs - it's like 2 OSs hashed together. If they just let me use it how I want that'd be fine, but there is no option to do that.

james.miller · 27 Jan 2013 at 14:53

windows update is in the control panel, in the same place its always been and opens the same way it always has. windows 8 just happens to have a full-screen app as well.