Terminator 5

The thought of Arnie playing an ageing Conan, intrigues me. If they make it, hopefully it will be a darn sight better than the recent Conan film, which was poor.
 
Rybo89 said:
^ shouldn't even be in the same post as each other.

Obviously Rocky is the winner out of the lot, followed by Demolition man. Both Sly and Arnie were great in there time, but today it is just cringe worthy lol. (there new films btw)

Expendables 2 ending made me cringe... They should try take up more serious/realistic roles and not the hard man role. Just doesn't suit them anymore. Sly can actually act when he tries aswell. Arnie just gets worse with age.
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Obviously..... OBVIOUSLY?

No, no, no.... Annie > Sly ;)

Rambo was Sly's best film.... But I'd say nearly all of Arnie's films were better. I am slightly biased, I was never a big Sly fan. Neither are great actors IMO. But Arnie was the ultimate action man - and he did cheese just right. Sly was just a tiny bit too much cheese and ruined it for me.
 
Rocky 1-5 are my fave films of all time, can just watch them again and again. Knew it would be a disaster when they announced Rocky Balboa and its story line. I was right after watching it imo. I think they should have gone along the line of Rocky coaching his son, would have made a great film.

Im sly over Arnie. Arnie made good kids films i guess and i absolutely love 'Twins', great film.

Van dam kicks both there asses though :p
 
Did anyone catch the remake of Universal Soldier a few years back? I think it went under the radar mostly, but THAT is how you recapture the essence of what made these action flicks glorious, in particular the "synth" esque soundtrack and filming style.

I was all for a Terminator film which detailed the future war, complete with skulls being compacted to dust by metal feet, but with T4 we kind of got that, and since then I have given up hope.

T5 is going to blow and we all know it. Personally I think it's impossible that they'll get it right because that age of cinema is dead - there's no grit or realism in films anymore, and even if they were to nail it it wouldn't stand up next to the polished sheen of today's films. They're mutually exclusive worlds, imo. Additionally, audiences have changed and with it their expectations. You can't be credible without multiple layers, symbology and cohesive subtexts anymore.

Without reading any articles yet, I think the only place for them to go innovatively, God Forbid, is back into the scenes of the first/second films and send ANOTHER terminator in (like they did with Back to The Future / Star Trek's DSP's Trial and Tribblations), completely changing the cause of events as they happened in the first two presentations and thus finally ruining the franchise once and for all. Long live T2.

And Rocky is fantastic. EVERY TIME after watching, it's a case of "I WANT TO TRAIN", "I WANT TO TRAIN RIGHT NOW". How does it do that...
 
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Craig1981 said:
I had hoped T4 would have been more like the opening scene from T2. Instead it was a pile of garbage. Cant really see T5 being any better.
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I totally agree as they should be going in another direction e.g. prequels. Why can't they just make the start of T2 into a complete film. That would rule.
 
T3 I like watching and surprised it gets such a pasting yet I think T4 was terrible and barely an better than an episode of SCC. The only decent scene in T4 is the outside bit with the gas station.
 
I seen that universal soldier reboot Robosapien and thought it was utterly terrible :p

Action scenes were good, but the film was not a patch on the first one.

There is another new one out quite recently but I am going give it a miss as it looks even worse.


I would still love to see that kind of war that we saw in the first and second one. T4 was nowhere near that kind of war, as someone else had said, you really didn't get that feeling that they couldn't hold on any longer and they were too organised and of course we didn't have any laser/plasma weapons being fired by T800'S!


I didn't like T3 due to the following:

- the guy playing John Connor :o :o :o I just wanted to skip every scene with him in it
- film wasn't serious/dark enough with the sun glasses, camp stripper, jokes etc.
- The girl terminator just didn't do it for me
- catherine brewster was annoying

And a bunch of other wee things, also hated the ball that they arrived in! Like a metallic surface instead of the blue/white glow :mad: :p
 
True, but they were much earlier versions, not the mighty T800 (and when Connor came up against it, well you seen for yourself how useless his weapons were then) etc. so they probably weren't as bullet "resistant" and for all we know the resistance could have been using some better bullets like armour piercing etc.

Besides, it's not like they had much else that they could use against them :p


The open heart surgery was stupid considering they wouldn't have had the tech. for it plus most likely didn't have anyone with proper medical experience.
 
Terminator 4 frustrated me because it had more holes than swiss cheese. the idea wasn't terrible overall, just should have gotten a better writer and director in.

Who the hell thought pairing the writers of Cat Woman and the director of Charlie's Angels for a hardcore sci-fi action film was a good idea?

The Producers are clueless most of the time, you hire a guy with great writing chops to start with. For this i'd go looking in the direction of Alex Garland to pen the screenplay/story, i'd then go find myself a really good director, you don't even have to blow the bank for a big name, think a little outside the box who is 1 film away from being 'A list' if he's given the right script, a Neil Burger (Limitless), Joe Carnahan (Narc, A-Team, The Grey) or even just step it up a notch and get Duncan Jones (Moon, Source Code).
 
EddScott said:
T3 I like watching and surprised it gets such a pasting yet I think T4 was terrible and barely an better than an episode of SCC. The only decent scene in T4 is the outside bit with the gas station.
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Agree 100%.

I enjoyed T3. It was commercial and designed for a younger audience and perhaps this is what many people dislike.

T4 was very depressing and dull (probably due to Bale - that guy could bore anybody to death). Sam Worthington was the only positive thing about T4.
 
They need to forget and discard T3/4 and get the series back to basics...

Drop Arnie altogether, cast an ugly hulk of a man as the T-800, less and better CGI, more prosthetics and actual props, it needs to be grittier & bloodier. Down scale the film, no futuristic wars/laser guns, let's have men vs one seemingly indestructible Terminator. They're going to have to dump the time travel aspect too as it's getting old.

A better direction would be to have the film set in the modern/current world and find some way to sell the concept of a cyborg killing machine, maybe a prototype fresh off the production line, running rampant.

I really can't see T5 returning the series to form though. :mad:
 
Agree with a lot of that.

Arnie is a massive part of the magic that made the franchise what it is. However, they need to remember that the half the point of a human looking terminator is the whole infiltration aspect. If they all look like him then what's the point?
At least SCC got that part right.

It's like they only want him there for the box office draw.
 
Is it just me or is Terminator 2 one of the best films ever made. I love it so much. I literally grew up with it as a wee boy. Watching dodgy pirate copies on its release, I didnt have a clue what was going on, but I use to fantasise about being John Connor and going on an adventures. Ohhh how inocent my childhood was.
 
Gunni Parker said:
Is it just me or is Terminator 2 one of the best films ever made. I love it so much. I literally grew up with it as a wee boy. Watching dodgy pirate copies on its release, I didnt have a clue what was going on, but I use to fantasise about being John Connor and going on an adventures. Ohhh how inocent my childhood was.
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I watched it as a kid probably about 8 years old and instantly fell in love with it.I watched it all the time every chance i could get.Still my favorite film.
Some of the scenes from t2 still hold they're own against some of the special effects in today's films.
 
I say just kill the franchise. T1, T2 and most of TSCC are good. The other two films aren't, and I can't see a way for them to make any more decent films.
 
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