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Torn between 7970 & GTX 680

If you're using a waterblock then get the non reference ones. Can someone confirm if the reference ones are voltage locked and the non reference ones are fine?

As you're using waterblocks I'd say go for this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=gx-049-hs

or even this for £10 more as you get better warranty:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=gx-098-gi&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1673

(you need to check though if water cooling doesn't invalidate the warranty, but then how will they ever know?)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-review-benchmark,3207-13.html
 
whyscotty said:
Your point was lost as soon as you mentioned a 670 ,
as you can get a 7970 for less than a 670

If no brand preference then 7950 is best value/performance for the money
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whyscotty said:
Don't think so, considering OP is undecided between brands :)
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ALXAndy said:
So rudely discounting the 670 is in his best interests even when he was considering buying a 680?

Sort it out.
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How did I rudely discount the 670? :confused:

All I said was that you could get a 7970 for less than a 670.
 
whyscotty said:
How did I rudely discount the 670? :confused:

All I said was that you could get a 7970 for less than a 670.
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whyscotty said:
Your point was lost as soon as you mentioned a 670 ,
as you can get a 7970 for less than a 670
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See above. Telling me I have no point in suggesting a 670 over a 7970.

Please explain this to me - IE - since when did Nvidia make 7970s?

The OP stated he was undecided between a 680 (Nvidia card) and a 7970 (AMD card).

Since then numerous people (including you) have told him that there is no point in buying a 7970 as the 7950 has its merits and is more worth buying.

My point you know? the one you rudely discarded was that the 670 is worth considering from Nvidia as it is in the exact same space in the market that the 7950 is - IE - It is cheaper than a 680 and very close to being just as good.

So in future before you rudely discard what others have to say then think about it a bit first before I start calling you a AMD Fanboy.
 
In the grand scheme of things, 670/7950 depending on whether you want a feature or not and concentrating on gaming.

The 680/7970, I would only go for if you want to benchmark as well as the above.

Quite a few shader intensive titles appearing now, so take that into consideration too.

Another consideration is the Never Settle Reloaded bundle, one set of titles can generate some cash towards a waterblock too.

MSI/Evga are more friendly when it comes to taking the stock coolers off too, they won't invalidate your warranty.

Reading your sig tells me better the devil you know though(unless you are at total ease with both teams).;)
 
Freddie1980 said:
I'm sure he can wait a few days.
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Why wait, it is out now :confused: :)

tommybhoy said:
In the grand scheme of things, 670/7950 depending on whether you want a feature or not and concentrating on gaming.

The 680/7970, I would only go for if you want to benchmark as well as the above.

Quite a few shader intensive titles appearing now, so take that into consideration too.

Another consideration is the Never Settle Reloaded bundle, one set of titles can generate some cash towards a waterblock too.

MSI/Evga are more friendly when it comes to taking the stock coolers off too, they won't invalidate your warranty.

Reading your sig tells me better the devil you know though(unless you are at total ease with both teams).;)
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Spot on Tommy. 680 (and only the MSI Lightning 680 or EVBot Classified 680's) and 7970 should be considered if you are big into benching.

Cheaper 680's and 7970's to be had if this is what you seriously want though and if you are not intending to bench, the cheaper ones will do you know harm.
 
ALXAndy said:
See above. Telling me I have no point in suggesting a 670 over a 7970.

So in future before you rudely discard what others have to say then think about it a bit first before I start calling you a AMD Fanboy.
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I see where your coming from now,

My point was the cost of a 670 is more than a 7970 and not that a 670 wasn't worth considering.

My poor wording, apologies

As for me being a Fanboy :D
 
whyscotty said:
I see where your coming from now,

My point was the cost of a 670 is more than a 7970 and not that a 670 wasn't worth considering.

My poor wording, apologies

As for me being a Fanboy :D
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Well as Tommy noted he currently runs 480 SLI so it may be better for him to stick to what he knows.
 
Just my tuppence:

Had 2 faulty 7970's for very differing reasons in the last 4 weeks. Not sure if its just bad luck or there are some serious QC issues but have lost the faith in ever getting a stable 7970. Seems like a bit of a lottery.

So I am moving back to Nvidia again once the 2nd refund comes through.
 
Fanatica said:
Just my tuppence:

Had 2 faulty 7970's for very differing reasons in the last 4 weeks. Not sure if its just bad luck or there are some serious QC issues but have lost the faith in ever getting a stable 7970. Seems like a bit of a lottery.

So I am moving back to Nvidia again once the 2nd refund comes through.
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My 7970 was iffy. I would have thought it to be faulty apart from the fact that it had different bugs depending on the drivers used.

The guy I sold it to said it was a crap clocker but did work OK in his rig.

I think people tend to forget sometimes that the 79xx cards are AMD's Fermi. Hot, use a lot of power for the nm and underperform for what they should bne doing.
 
ALXAndy said:
My 7970 was iffy. I would have thought it to be faulty apart from the fact that it had different bugs depending on the drivers used.

The guy I sold it to said it was a crap clocker but did work OK in his rig.

I think people tend to forget sometimes that the 79xx cards are AMD's Fermi. Hot, use a lot of power for the nm and underperform for what they should bne doing.
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It's going to far to say this is amd's fermi. Gtx680=295mm2 and 7970=365mm2. Gtx480=529mm2 and 5870=334mm2. Amd have the performance advantage while using a part thats a fully blown compute part with a bigger front side bus. They only used 70mm2 more to achieve this while nvidia needed 195mm2. I can't see where the 7970 under performs for the size of chip when you consider the bigger bus and it being a compute part. I don't even think its that hot comparing to the gtx680 and the power use does come with extra performance especially at higher resolution.
 
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Fanatica said:
Just my tuppence:

Had 2 faulty 7970's for very differing reasons in the last 4 weeks. Not sure if its just bad luck or there are some serious QC issues but have lost the faith in ever getting a stable 7970. Seems like a bit of a lottery.

So I am moving back to Nvidia again once the 2nd refund comes through.
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+1 These issues we've all experienced with AMD are apparently a myth though. Nvidia does have its problems as well but no where near as much as you see people troubleshooting their AMD card.
 
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