Call of Duty: Black Ops II

Playing slums yesterday really highlight how much spawn problems are dictated by map size.

Have a watch of this video dissecting Sandy Ravage


Just look at how big that map is in comparison to the Black Ops 2 maps we have now. Slums, Cargo, Stand off, HiJacked, Plaza, Raid are all absolutely tiny

You can walk from one spawn to the other in a matter of seconds.

its impossible to find a location it can safely spawn you into when you have a team who spread themselves out across the map. What usually happens is that you have a mix of players, some who rush headlong at the enemy and meet the other rushers in the middle of the map. You then have those that camp at the back of their start. If those initial rushers win their fights, they end up in the back of the enemy spawn while the campers are still camping their spawn.

The only option then is to start spawning them to the sides which can equally be occupied. In plaza for example the alternate side spawns are the night club and then the arcade thing on the other side.
 
biron_w said:
I doubt spawns will ever be fixed. I think the spawn system is probably what annoys me most in this game. Oh,and getting killed by ScoreStreaks straight after spawning.
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More often than not its the lightning strike - so over powered and you have little or zero chance of escaping. It's for the noobs.
 
The thing that amazes me is the level of support on black ops 1 was great, on this their pure aim here seems to be to maximise ways of making money and to spend as little as possible fixing anything.
 
oldbag said:
The thing that amazes me is the level of support on black ops 1 was great, on this their pure aim here seems to be to maximise ways of making money and to spend as little as possible fixing anything.
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You've just described every single successful business.
 
The maps from MW3 AND BO2 are all terrible in comparison to previous games, there wasn't a single enjoyable map for me in MW3 and BO2 is pretty much the same way. There are maps I tolerate and maps I hate but there are no maps I actually look forward to playing on. :(
 
Soulja said:
I love how all the new maps have good camp spots for snipers to over look B flag in domo.
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I don't play domo anymore, pretty much all of the maps put B so out in the open that it's just a turkey shoot. It used to be my favourite mode but it's just a magnet for people camping out for killstreaks and a better KDR.

Only way I can see to fix it is to customise each game mode so that only actions that contribute to your team's success actually count towards your scorestreak (so kills would count for nothing/very little in domo).
 
MrLOL said:
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Just look at how big that map is in comparison to the Black Ops 2 maps we have now.
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The maps are definitely getting smaller with each iteration of COD.

K1LLSW1TCH said:
The maps from MW3 AND BO2 are all terrible in comparison to previous games.
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There are a few decent maps in BO2 but the maps in MW3 were all terrible. Although I agree that none in this game are as good as MW2 or BO maps.
 
biron_w said:
There are a few decent maps in BO2 but the maps in MW3 were all terrible. Although I agree that none in this game are as good as MW2 or BO maps.
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Yup I hated every map in MW3 too, there wasn't a single enjoyable one for me. It's a shame that WaW, MW and MW2 have just been left to rot at the hands of the glitchers. I'd play BO but I've traded it in and don't fancy buying all the map packs for it either. If you want a popular console FPS the only choices are CoD and BF and the last time I played BF3 on PS3 there was horrendous input lag and the tiny player limit totally ruins the whole point of the game.

This is the only reason I'm still playing BO2.
 
No way, i think the maps in mw3 are way better - mission, dome, arkaden, resistance, bootleg, lockdown, village, fallen, underground, outpost and interchange. The ones I don't like are bakaraa, seatown, and downturn - out of the stock maps. Black ops 2 I like 2 or 3.
 
What a load of whiners. Play BF3 if you want big maps.
I've been enjoying the game, I've not even been playing attention to my rank this time, too busy doing all the camo unlocks
 
I quite like the BO2 maps especially;

Slums
Stand Off
Meltdown
Raid
Grind
Hydro
Mirage
Downhill

I prefer the maps in BO2 to the ones in MW3 by a mile
 
pfft what a load of bull ........... was accused of cheating last night lol my fav weapon on BO2 is the FAL and i use it all the time its powerful, accurate and in CQ it rips pretty much everything a new hole, was on downhill last night and was doing well with 15-3 and i get a message up calling me a f ing cheater this that and the other in a high pitch whiney yank accent i just laughed it of and carried on, serious if this is what am going to get for using a decent weapon then i might go back to bf :(
 
Had a blast last night until the lag kicked in and I died almost every encounter.

My fav at the moment is definately the HAMR with TF, FMJ and Quickhandle.

Deals death quickly and rapidly as long as you keep to medium / long range.

Love just sitting outside the main choke points mowing down the campers running to thier fav spot and the SMG'ers running after them :)
 
Catanonia said:
Love just sitting outside the main choke points mowing down the campers running to thier fav spot and the SMG'ers running after them :)
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that made me laugh lol your camping in a spot to kill the campers before they get to there location ??;)
 
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