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IvyBridge Is Far Bit Faster than Old I7's!

Since I am using an older version of Fubar2000 for playback I checked the version log:

http://www.foobar2000.org/changelog

1.1.15


Added basic MusicBrainz tagging capability to the audio CD ripper.
CD ripper can now look up CD information automatically each time a new CD is about to be ripped.
Worked-around shell integration incompatibility with Windows 8.
Converter performance tweaks for multi-core encoding (beta 2).
Resolved incompatibility with Matroska files processed with mkvclean (beta 2).
ID3v2: “rating” tags now compatible with Windows Media Player (beta 2).
Resolved Converter incompatibility with new Opus encoder (beta 2).
Worked-around drag&drop incompatibility with Windows explorer read-only optical media (final).
Added an advanced preferences option to minimize the app on [x] close (final).
Worked-around NSIS installer incompatibility with Windows 8 address space layout randomization (final).

1.1.12

Fixed Musepack HTTP streaming bugs.
Fixed incorrect MP3 decoder behavior on certain rare files.
Fixed crash reporter dialog crash (duh).
Detection of proxy server settings from Internet Explorer.
Fixed multi-channel FLAC encoding (channel mask now gets preserved).
Fixed multi-channel WavPack decoding (channel mask now gets preserved).
Now possible to use HDCD & DTS decoder components with ALAC.
Changed MP3 tag reading behaviors when multiple tags are present.
ID3v2 content now takes priority over APE and then ID3v1.
Various time-consuming operations such as conversion or ReplayGain-scanning now prevent the computer from automatically going to sleep (opt-out).
Tuned ReplayGain scanner for fast multicore CPU / slow HDD scenarios (beta 4).
Fixed Converter misbehavior on files with misplaced “cuesheet” tags (beta 4).
Improved performance when playing MP3 files from internet HTTP sources (beta 4).
Improved compatibility with Apple's HFS driver (beta 4).
ID3v2 handling improvements (beta 5):
Fixed TXXX field name sometimes incorrectly written.
No longer possible to write multiple values per ID3v2.3 frame in various scenarios.
Improved ID3v2.3 specification compliance for TXXX and TCON (genre) frames (beta 6).
COMM frames with a description now show as “COMMENT <description>”.
Certain broken APIC (cover art) frames are now visible.
APEv2 tag writing: relaxed tracknumber/discnumber field content restrictions (beta 5).
Fixed Converter having trouble locating oggenc.exe (beta 6).
Fixed WAV handling exploits affecting versions 1.1.9-1.1.12b6.
Thanks to FuzzMyApp for the report and samples.
Files with .M4R (MP4 ringtones) extension are now recognized (1.1.12 final).
Fixed incorrect handling of hidden files with certain Media Library configurations (1.1.12 final).

There have been converter changes,in the most recent updates and if you start looking at the older updates,there have been changes too.
 
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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I agree with the software version. If you look at HandBrake for example,the changes between the last three versions have been huge and significantly changed the way it interacts with CPUs.

This is also an important point when it comes to reviews. Using old versions of software can skew results easily and have no relevance to actual usage patterns.
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From Foobar2000 Changelog:

1.1.15 (Release date 2012-09-14)
Converter performance tweaks for multi-core encoding (beta 2).


So possibly first batch was done with a version older than this?


** EDIT - CAT-THE-FIFTH: you beat me to it :)
 
robin66 said:
I just see a person that is more than happy with there purchase.

Good for you smogsy mate. Enjoy the extra speed. :)
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nobody is saying there wasn't some extra speed from his purchase... he has overclocked by 1Ghz which may or may not have been possible on the old kit, and there is bound to be some gain from the improved IPC....

however the 4x Fold improvement is largely due to better software - which could apply to any hardware i.e. his previous i7 920 or even on older kit such as Core2Quads....


All we are saying is that as per original thread title "IvyBridge Is Far Bit Faster than Old I7's" :- MYTH BUSTED
 
Old 2.9 vs new 3.9 and 3.9 wins? :eek:

*Sniff* Smells like troll...but could just be facepalm.

I hereby award you 7/10. Good effort.
 
Wucked said:
Old 2.9 vs new 3.9 and 3.9 wins? :eek:

*Sniff* Smells like troll...but could just be facepalm.

I hereby award you 7/10. Good effort.
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troops said:
The fact that its Old 2.9 vs new 3.9 is kinda stating the obvious.
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Point clearly missed - even at 3.9Ghz an Ivy is not 3-4x faster than a 2.9Ghz Bloomfield....

Most of the performance gain is from using a newer multi-threaded version of the software


A Core2Quad @ 3Ghz using the newer software would have spanked the Bloomfield running the older software.....
 
Au contraire, point registered and promptly dismissed.

The comparison was between two CPU's of different generations, at differing clocks. The possibility that he also upgraded the software in between the runs, further skewing the results (which is an assumption as he says nothing about it) makes very little difference. The crux of the post is "hey look guys, this new CPU is faster than the old one :D". Which to the OP's credit is a statement that I think everyone agrees with.
 
If you have 4 or 8 encodes running concurrently, disk IO will play a large role in the encode speed.

Were both tests performed using the same disk configuration?
 
Armageus said:
nobody is saying there wasn't some extra speed from his purchase... he has overclocked by 1Ghz which may or may not have been possible on the old kit, and there is bound to be some gain from the improved IPC....

however the 4x Fold improvement is largely due to better software - which could apply to any hardware i.e. his previous i7 920 or even on older kit such as Core2Quads....


All we are saying is that as per original thread title "IvyBridge Is Far Bit Faster than Old I7's" :- MYTH BUSTED
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I wasn't referring to your post or the constructive ones, just the trolling.
 
i was not Comparing them scientifically.
just noticed a nice speed boost (be it Hardware or software) & was happy with a nice speed increase

Before i know about the software,
i saw a nice increase (which i believed was hardware) & thought id post here my findings. that is all.

OP encounters a real world situation where he can come his new i7 against his old one. OP posts the results, and includes notes stating why this isn't a scientific test - just his experience. Everyone then flames him for not ensuring a level playing field and giving results they disagree with. :confused:

Smogsy - nice spot on a very nice increase and, in these days of ever decreasing performance increases, you were definitely right to have a smile on your face when encountering this one.
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cheers that is all.
 
smogsy said:
i was not Comparing them scientifically.
just noticed a nice speed boost (be it Hardware or software) & was happy with a nice speed increase

Before i know about the software,
i saw a nice increase (which i believed was hardware) & thought id post here my findings. that is all.
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But your viewpoint is slanted due to your low clock on your i7 920, I mean they've reached 4.2GHZ etc fine.
 
ofc the i7 920 is a lower clock stock its older hardware,
im not saying they wont reach 4.2 overclocked.

i'm saying there is a nice difference between i7 920 2.9ghz > i7 3770k 3.9ghz

that is all. when i done this test, I thought it be marginal 10 mins-20mins not what i noticed. so i posted here.

now i get called a troll & saying its obvious for a simple statement. that it was a nice increase i noticed. If people read my opening post i said i'm not comparing them side by side.

for people dont understand:
if you forget there a nelh & ivybridge

going from 2.9ghz to 3.9ghz is a nice boost.

/thread end.
 
I think its safe to say your new set up is faster than your old one.

I have seen a massive increase in performance with my last build but it was due to multiple factors...new cpu/gpu/storage.
 
Thats the thing, unless we can equalise the hardware and software as much as possible,there are a lot of factors that can improve performance.
 
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smogsy said:
ofc the i7 920 is a lower clock stock its older hardware,
im not saying they wont reach 4.2 overclocked.

i'm saying there is a nice difference between i7 920 2.9ghz > i7 3770k 3.9ghz

that is all. when i done this test, I thought it be marginal 10 mins-20mins not what i noticed. so i posted here.

now i get called a troll & saying its obvious for a simple statement. that it was a nice increase i noticed. If people read my opening post i said i'm not comparing them side by side.

for people dont understand:
if you forget there a nelh & ivybridge

going from 2.9ghz to 3.9ghz is a nice boost.

/thread end.
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My apologies for suggesting that you might be trolling. Upon reflection I see that you're right, your OP is just a simple statement. I'm pleased that you're enjoying your upgrade and I'm actually a little jealous as well. I have a mad upgrade itch atm, but I'm determined not to scratch until haswell arrives.

I do wonder why you didn't overclock the i7 920 though, they're still pretty good when overclocked and it would have given you a more useful base for comparison.
 
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