It does not run better, it runs normally.
I never said it ran better, just on normal UL it runs worse than normal.
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It does not run better, it runs normally.
I never said it ran better, just on normal UL it runs worse than normal.
How so?
It's all in your head, you psychologically want it to run worse on 95.
Economy goes down on UL and the car is just not as smooth.
Because I am not cheap I would rather run my car on what is recommended not on 'what will do/work'.
What would you know?
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Sell car buy new one, simple no?
I would have thought that the less "cheap" option would be to get it remapped properly to run on 95RON and not bodge it with Octane Booster, but each to their own
I would have thought that the less "cheap" option would be to get it remapped properly to run on 95RON and not bodge it with Octane Booster, but each to their own
It's not a 'cheap' affair at all.
Why are you of the opinion octane booster is a bodge? I've not seen any contributions that speak to that effect at all. I don't expect any either. Will /offski from Motors where every poster has their own little personal agenda.
I agree, a remap isn't cheap (if it's done properly) - but it saves the hassle of having to put in octane booster every time you fill up, unless you spend the money on a separate fueling system for it?
I personally think that it's a bodge in the context that it's masking a problem rather than fixing the root cause - your car won't run properly on 95RON, so you're having to add something aftermarket to fix it with octane booster. Prevention is better than cure, as they say - if you remap it and ensure it runs properly on the fuel available, then you don't have to go down that road. Also, as others have stated, you could gain some power and perhaps some economy, too. I don't see the issue myself . No personal agenda here.
Bearing in mind of course, would you scoff at someone who remapped their car to run on 98RON when it ran well on 95RON, to take advantage of the higher octane rating for power and economy reasons?
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As above, am exiting stage left from this discussion. It's a problem that will effect the entire group of islands, not just myself.
SUL will be entirely unavailable for all areas of motoring. Local racing (rallying, sprints, hillclimbs) all cars specifically mapped for it's use and anyone else who has a reason to use SUL over UL.
Looking into options available when SUL is withdrawn from the market, not looking for "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO Y U NEED SUL ANYWAY" from the (same old) group of typically handicapped posters.
SUL will be entirely unavailable for all areas of motoring. Local racing (rallying, sprints, hillclimbs) all cars specifically mapped for it's use and anyone else who has a reason to use SUL over UL.
Looking into options available when SUL is withdrawn from the market, not looking for "LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO Y U NEED SUL ANYWAY" from the (same old) group of typically handicapped posters.
Well, the options are:
Use 95RON and spend a decent amount of cash constantly putting in octane booster
or:
Use 95RON and pay out once to remap your car to accept it and run well - saving hassle.
Obviously depending on the ECU used in the S2000, it may not be mappable - which of course brings in the whole world of aftermarket ECUs etc, so I can see why you're hesitant. It's worth looking at both sides of the coin though, as you're coming across as particularly narrow minded.
I'm not being narrow minded, I am aware of ECU remapping and yes - it's a pig of a job.
The point is if I can 'break even' with Booster and UL and it work as it should and cost no more per litre than SUL than it seems like a reasonable option. I, however, have no experience with booster, it's Pros/Cons or otherwise. Apaprently nobody else here does either so posting in the first place was a waste of time.
What I take issue with is idiots who claim that not having SUL is not an issue at all. The question was not, "Do I really need SUL?", if it was I would have asked that. I am more than capable of deciding for myself whether I need, want or desire SUL for whatever application I choose.
I am not particularly impressed at the prospect of shelling out for ferry fees, aftermarket ECUs, a mapper and a day on the rollers purely because the local authorities refuse to repair SUL storage containers and instead discontinue it within the next 3 weeks.
The point is if I can 'break even' with Booster and UL and it work as it should and cost no more per litre than SUL than it seems like a reasonable option. I, however, have no experience with booster, it's Pros/Cons or otherwise. Apaprently nobody else here does either so posting in the first place was a waste of time.
What I take issue with is idiots who claim that not having SUL is not an issue at all. The question was not, "Do I really need SUL?", if it was I would have asked that. I am more than capable of deciding for myself whether I need, want or desire SUL for whatever application I choose.
I am not particularly impressed at the prospect of shelling out for ferry fees, aftermarket ECUs, a mapper and a day on the rollers purely because the local authorities refuse to repair SUL storage containers and instead discontinue it within the next 3 weeks.
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what, OcUK is supposed to have some magical answer for you?
I take that back ( somewhat) your last post had info you pulled from your opener I guess?
I take that back ( somewhat) your last post had info you pulled from your opener I guess?
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I have redacted my OP because it's apparently beyond a large percentage of posters here.
Why do I want to spend my life driving a crapbox?
I think that would drive me far more batty than driving a decent car, irrespective of location.
Wow, you really do get your knickers in a twist quickly don't you.
For the record, octane boosters work in points, 1 point = 0.1 ron essentially.
I'd go for main brand ones like Lucas if you're really looking to go down that route.
I'm pretty sure boosters are hideously expensive though.
For the record, octane boosters work in points, 1 point = 0.1 ron essentially.
I'd go for main brand ones like Lucas if you're really looking to go down that route.
I'm pretty sure boosters are hideously expensive though.
Because isn't VTEC in 1st gear over the speed limit?
And given you can't use it as intended you might as well have either
a) a slow, comfortable car for the island or
b) a fast car with low down torque for the island,
both +/- mainland S2k.
But hey, we've been over this before with your ridiculous car choice
No words of wisdom on the original issue though, so have a go at me too, you're building up a nice tally here and have obviously forgotten how Motors works.
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Remapping an S2000 to dial down the RON is bonkers. Massive cost and will never run like a stock car without serious development. 'Impressed'? The guy doesn't owe you an answer!
Plenty of people know about octane booster and it advantage on track days etc on boosted motors for safety. Few use it though for the exact reason you haven't until now. We could all buy SUL and most can still. So yes it was a waste of the... But what did you expect. The difference between SUL and UL is hard to tell without objective data and octane booster is similar to tell the difference. Pinking at low revs would be managed by the knock sensor anyway.
