Supplements the debate/discussion thread

It is terribly bad manners to talk about a person's titties.
Just advise him on a suitable bra and leave it at that :p

On a serious note though: surely, once he lowers his body fat, the excess fat on the chest will reduce....right?

not if its breast tissue which looking at that it might be. He is pretty fat and not that big all things considered, not a great role model of a BB and a poor poster for roids.
 
I would want to make sure it's unbleached and un hydrogenated and good quality. But I don't buy cheap rubbish food. However I understand that not everyone has that mindset or ability. :) it's cheaper than the myprotein one. :)

This isn't a supp anyway. I consider it food. :)
 
Is ...

a: D Aspartic Acid worth taking as a natural testosterone booster
b: There's something better
c: Man up you sissy you don't need testosterone boosters

?

D Aspartic acid is fantastic! I noticed a big difference on it. Well that's a lie, I noticed nothing on it other than I thought my lifts were progressing very well. It was only once I came off it and a few weeks later that I noticed my strength wasn't as good and I didn't feel as focused in the gym
 
It's cheaper than MP - yeah it's nice - you have to take it easy initially it's so nice you can easily eat 000s of calories! :D

However it's awesome for cooking with - and it's potentially thermogenic and little to no insulin response.
 
My understanding is that it is legal to use/hold ephedrine. But it is illegal to sell ephedrine, in larger doses.

Perhaps someone can clear this up?

It's definitely not banned, as I can buy this from Boots, in Do Do's Chest-eze.

It's on the WADA banned list which I imagine is what was meant, it's a P class medicine so it can only be sold by a pharmacist and you can only buy a limited amount due to it's use in the manufacture of crystal meth.
 
Talking of test boosters, has anyone tried Horny Goat Weed? just for the name alone i want to take it, put it on my breakfast, lunch, make cookies out of it, it sounds brilliant!
 
Anyone else using the OneOn whey posted a while back?

I ask because I've been crazy bloated recently, wondering if it's related. Probably buy a small bag of MP whey on my next order and see what happens.
 
It's cheaper than MP - yeah it's nice - you have to take it easy initially it's so nice you can easily eat 000s of calories! :D

However it's awesome for cooking with - and it's potentially thermogenic and little to no insulin response.

I usually have 5-10g on days when I'm a little short of my fat target - either on it's own or I just let it melt on my veg. Yum yum.
 
With regards to caffeine, everybody is different.
Some people drink lots of coffee, so they have built a tolerance to it over many years. These people could probably have a gram a day it wouldn't put them out of whack.

My way of dealing with caffeine is as follows:
don't have any caffeine (tea/coffee), recreationally. This means no tea/coffee, generally.

I only take caffeine in my pre-workout drink (I use Superpump 250, every other day, whihc already contains caff, though you can use your favourite pre-workout drink, which will almost certainly use caffeine as the main stimulant).

I believe that I end up taking about 150mg, every other day, in SuperPump 250.

When I start cutting, I switch to an ECA stack. This, I take about 6 times a week and ingest somewhere in the region of 200mg/day. This much caffeine really hits me hard, because I have not built up a tolerance to the stuff.

My ECA phase lasts for about 2 months, before I come off it. This allows my body to lose its tolerance towards caffeine, once the 2 month period is done.

In summary, you have to learn to listen to your body. Experiment.
Start low and bump up the dose if you are not getting a response. And make sure you go through an "off period" of cycling of the product (very important).

And above all, don't take caffeine recreationally - save it up for your workouts/exercise. This will allow you to keep doses nice and low (for the workouts). Same goes for Ephedrine.

My belief is that caff is the best stimulant on the market, but it isn't marketed heavily by supplement companies because it is so cheaply/readily available. Its easier to charge £40 for a small tub of Super Heat Matrix 4000 Blitz Thermogen Extreme...not so easy to charge the same for caffeine tablets, available from your local supermarket.

Caff = super powerful and cheap stimulant. Highly recommended before workouts and when cutting.
 
whoa, a bought a 500g tub for £1.50 from tesco, sure it ain't no virgin but to be honest I think they're overrated anyway.

Surely Freefaller's 800g tub can't be "that" much better than the Tesco brand?
Has anyone actually done a taste/quality comparison?

I can't help feel that some companies are fleecing health fanatics, adding words like "extra virgin" on the container.

I think some of the Indian food stores do coconut oil. I'd imagine they'd be quite cheap.
 
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