Rant: Why are all "bodyshops" useless

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Apologies in advance for a wall of text!

So, my A4 needed some warranty (is it warranty when the damage was done pre-delivery?) work doing on the front bumper, and I needed to sort out a gouge I'd made in the nearside sill when I failed to see a rock on the side of someone's driveway.

Originally, I liased through Audi Macclesfield (who, other than using the bodyshop in question as their "approved" bodyshop, have done nothing wrong) to get my car booked in for the repairs on the bumper, and enquired about getting my booboo resolved at the same time. Obviously my thinking here was that assuming the costs were not prohibitive (they weren't really, £275 for the entire sill being repaired and painted), the work would have to be up to some sort of Audi standard, as any work done doesn't affect my paint and bodywork guarantee.

This was arranged in December for an early January repair (Christmas got in the way), however January came and went without so much as a peep from the bodyshop. Getting Audi to yet again contact the bodyshop, I finally got my car taken in on the 4th of Feb, being told it would be needed for 5 days, I had Audi arrange me a courtesy car (2012 A6 2.0TDI for what it's worth). The car was driven away, to a bodyshop over 25 miles from the dealership, and I noted down the mileage (as well as took photographs), and took photographs of the damaged areas (as a point of reference). The car came back with nearly 100 extra miles on the clock (now, when a car has only done 1800 miles, that accounts for
5.5% of the total mileage on the car!).

Friday the 9th arrived, and I was glad to be getting my car back (didn't get on with the new shape A6 at all), however all was not well. The sill could only be described as being finished in a paint quality something like sandpaper, rough sandpaper. And the bumper was covered in screwdriver gouges around the foglights, where they had clearly been unable to remove the plastic shrouds without damage. There were also a number of stone chips on the bonnet, masking tape all over the near-side of the car, and a discernable lip between the "new" paint on the sill, and the rest of the paintwork.

So this Wednesday (13th Feb), their senior estimator came to check the car over at work, and agreed that there is no way the car should have been released from the bodyshop, let alone sent to the customer. I was assured that this would be rectified swiftly, and to expect a call later that afternoon to re-book the car in. Sufficed to say, no call was forthcoming.

Thursday came and went without a call either, so this morning (15th Feb) I called the bodyshop to find out what was going on! I was informed that I was at the bottom of a very long queue of work (for the receptionist, not the bodyshop), and that she was meant to be calling me today. After a quick discussion about the fact that this call is now two days late, that my car had clearly been used for "personal" errands by whomever had the keys to it, and that I was really unhappy with the service so far, I was told that they would need my car for a further two days. I was quite shocked by this, seeing as there was now more work to do than there had been for the initial booking (removal of junk paintwork, respray of sill, respray of entire front bumper), yet they needed my car for less time. I was passed through to the "technical" manager who tried (and failed) to answer my questions, mainly about how long the paint will take to cure, and that I really don't want it driven back to me with soft paint. It was agreed that 2 days was slightly optimistic, and then I was handed back to whomever it was that was meant to be booking me in... only I wasn't, I was cut off.

So, I called them back. I was informed that the lady I needed to speak to was on the phone, and that she would call me back when she was done with that call. Over two hours later, still no call back. I rang again, only to be told almost exactly what I had been told before (either this is the worlds longest phone conversation, or she simply couldn't be bothered to perform simple tasks), yet again, no call-back occurred within another two hour window. I finally called them back after leaving work, this time refusing to wait for a call-back, and to be put through to "someone" immediately.

Now it gets interesting. I'm finally offered a slot to book back in, only to be told that I need to bring the car to them (it's 30 miles in the wrong direction for going to work, and nowhere near anywhere useful to me at all - Audenshaw), and that the only vehicle they can offer me is a VW UP. I'm pretty riled at this, and find it rather disghusting that due to their ****-up, I'm expected to drive around in a shoe, and deliver my own vehicle to somewhere miles out of my way.

So now I'm sat here waiting for yet another call-back from the manager, about sorting me out with a better courtesy vehicle, and someone (preferably someone who isn't completely brain dead) to come and collect my car.

Two questions then:

1) Will I ever recieve this mythical call-back?
2) If I want to try and resolve this without using this bodyshop (I forsee the re-repair being just as shoddy if I'm honest), what's my best route? Claiming off their insurance? Speaking to my Audi dealer? Speaking to Audi UK?
 
That sounds pretty awful customer service and I'm afraid to say I'm not entirely shocked, although you have to be mindful of the fact you only really hear about the worst customer service experiences and not the good ones. However in your circumstance I would refer this back to the Audi dealership as its their approved bodyshop, arrange another courtesy car through them and get them to do the leg work.

I've only had an Audi for 6 months but everytime I've had an issue, Audi have bent over backwards to try and help me (Good Customer Service!) and even on one occasion giving me a bottle of champaign for having to bring the vehicle back for repairs to the same problem twice - i'm easily bought :)

I would give them a tinkle, explain the situation and ask for their help.

You have further options:-

1. Attempt to claim back the money you spent, citing the senior estimators appraisal for shoddy work from the bodyshop.
2. Speak to your Audi dealer explaining you are not happy with their approved people and that you will take it to one you do trust and that this should not affect your bodywork cover.
 
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I would speak to your Audi dealer, the pre-delivery damage should have been picked up on the PDI (Pre-Delivery Inspection).

Even if was somehow missed, I would have expected Audi to be pretty good about sorting things out.

Let them know about the body shop service, as ultimately audi are as much a customer for the Pre-Delivery damage, as you are for the sill.


My A3 was an approved used Audi, I picked it up, and after having it for a couple of days, spotted a couple of minor stone chips that hadn't been touched up. Rang audi up, they collected it from work, paid an independent mobile body repairer to touch it up properly, and car was returned, no hassle, no cost.


I've only had an Audi for 6 months but everytime I've had an issue, Audi have bent over backwards to try and help me (Good Customer Service!) and even on one occasion giving me a bottle of champaign for having to bring the vehicle back for repairs to the same problem twice - i'm easily bought :)

Agree with this, far better service with my Approved-Used A3 than a brand new Mini Cooper S I bought... the Mini Dealer couldn't even be bothered to provide a courtesy car when it went in for a service etc, My Audi dealer (JCT600 Franchise - Boston Audi) come and collect my car, and leave me a Courtesy car, no extra cost.
 
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Name: Bernard Mort
Position: Head of Business
Telephone: 08451 282678
Fax: 01625 613300
Email: [email protected]

Make contact and ask him to call you to discuss your current dissatisfaction with the Audi brand following your experience of their Audi approved bodywork specialist. Don't go into details on the email, just ask him to call you at his earliest convenience as you are confident he too would be disappointed with your recent experience and would want to ensure the current situation is addressed. Be polite, calm and remove emotion but be very clear you are not going to accept the current level of service you have received and need to understand what Audi intends to do to address this.

If you are still not satisfied, which I am sure you will be then escalate to Audi UK and ensure you log everything for your email to What Car, Autocar etc.
 
I recently had an issue with an Audi dealer and as soon as I put it on the radar of someone who wasn't 15th in charge last to know, which I did within 2 hours of my incident, it was addressed. Audi are incredibly protective of their brand and the dealers need and will be very protective of it too. Get it on the radar of the right person quickly, professionally and without to much emotion and I'm sure your issues will go away and satisfaction will be restored.
 
Name: Bernard Mort
Position: Head of Business
Telephone: 08451 282678
Fax: 01625 613300
Email: [email protected]

Make contact and ask him to call you to discuss your current dissatisfaction with the Audi brand following your experience of their Audi approved bodywork specialist. Don't go into details on the email, just ask him to call you at his earliest convenience as you are confident he too would be disappointed with your recent experience and would want to ensure the current situation is addressed. Be polite, calm and remove emotion but be very clear you are not going to accept the current level of service you have received and need to understand what Audi intends to do to address this.

If you are still not satisfied, which I am sure you will be then escalate to Audi UK and ensure you log everything for your email to What Car, Autocar etc.

Cheers Housey, I've actually spoken to Bernard before (and have his business card in my wallet). Macc Audi are a 30 second walk from our head office, so I'll likely go and see him face to face if I can arrange to.

I've just spoken to my service manager, at the moment I'm letting them deal with it moving forward.
 
Cheers Housey, I've actually spoken to Bernard before (and have his business card in my wallet). Macc Audi are a 30 second walk from our head office, so I'll likely go and see him face to face if I can arrange to.

I've just spoken to my service manager, at the moment I'm letting them deal with it moving forward.

My advice is ask him to keep a watching brief. Email him, let him know the person who is dealing with it, but make it clear you expect it resolved and would appreciate his input. These guys will want to know about all aspects of them doing a bad job so they can make sure it doesn't happen again if they are worth their salt.
 
Audi are incredibly protective of their brand and the dealers need and will be very protective of it too. Get it on the radar of the right person quickly, professionally and without to much emotion and I'm sure your issues will go away and satisfaction will be restored.

A family friend had no end of trouble with an S4 he purchased new around the time they were released (the 4.2 V8) which eventually ended up with the customer services director getting involved to try and sort it out. Was something to do with suspension troubles.

In the end they offered him an above book trade in price on the S4 and the a large chunk off an RS4 Avant.
 
I feel your pain, I dont think my pain is as bad as yours but its been pain! I broke my RS4'ss door 3x weeks ago in the snow, got it dealt with via the insurance company quickly, its taken 3 weeks to get the door sorted. The worst but, the courtesy car has been a 1 litre Nissan Pixo. The most rubbish car ever made!
 
Well, after getting the dealership involved again, they are bringing me a Passat CC on Tuesday and taking mine back...

I still hold no hope of them doing it well, but at least they are going to try. :rolleyes:
 
I've said this before. Only bother using in house dealer bodyshops like BMW.

Same price as a good quality in dependant and you dont get messed around.

Any old **** can open a bodyshop tomorrow.
 
Well, after getting the dealership involved again, they are bringing me a Passat CC on Tuesday and taking mine back...

I still hold no hope of them doing it well, but at least they are going to try. :rolleyes:

Have you asked them what they will do different this time to ensure it is perfect and if it isn't what they propose to do? I suspect this time it will be perfect, but if it isn't I would now be setting out your stall about what you will do and expect done if you have the same experience again.
 
I've said this before. Only bother using in house dealer bodyshops like BMW.

Same price as a good quality in dependant and you dont get messed around.

Any old **** can open a bodyshop tomorrow.

Not sure what I can do about that. This IS my dealership's bodyshop (they don't have their own on site, so use these guys, not exactly a small outfit either).


Have you asked them what they will do different this time to ensure it is perfect and if it isn't what they propose to do? I suspect this time it will be perfect, but if it isn't I would now be setting out your stall about what you will do and expect done if you have the same experience again.

Well they are aware that I'll be escalating this to Audi UK if it's not absolutely spot on this time, but I'm not sure if there is anything in particular I should be doing with regards to that.
 
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This sounds a lot like the experience I had getting Leeds Audi to repair my A6 after someone drove into the side of it in the carpark of my flat at the time. Replacing a door panel and painting to match meant that Audi had my car for 5 of the next 6 months.

In the time they had it, they tried to give it back to me 6 times, always with obvious major issues, which showed they'd not even checked the car over after one of their bodyshops (it spent time in Huddersfield and Harrogate) had brought it back. They also managed to do quite a bit of damage to the car themselves, which meant they had to re-spray the front bumper three times before I was happy with it, and replaced the front grill.

After 6 months I eventually accepted the car back after being told it was as good as they could get it, the new fuel filler flap they'd put on still stuck out a bit, and there was an obvious join line visible when the rear door was open. The insurance company (Admiral) didn't care and wouldn't do anything to help me with any of the issues I'd had, or cover any of the expenses I'd had (mainly lost time) getting the car fixed.

By the time I got the car back, I was sick of it. I'd lost interest and didn't want to pay another penny keeping the thing, so went and swapped it for my current Jag XF instead. I've had much better service from most Jaguar staff than I ever had from Audi, apart from one salesman in Leeds.
 
Just for anyone who was intrigued as to the shocking quality of the "approved" Audi work:

a4-shoddy-repair-1.jpg


Here you can see the shocking lip between the new and old paint, the "sand paper" new stonechip, the incredibly thin coat of silver paint that came off with the garden hose yesterday. And even worse, that underneath the black stonechip, is a completely standard (and therefore not prepared in any way at all) original paintwork.
 
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seeing as there was a 'shocking' lip before what do you expect there to be afterwards? just looks like the stonechip wasnt prepped before basecoat.
 
That "shocking" lip that was there beforehand was visible, but not "feelable" if you get what I mean. The new stuff you can get your fingernail behind, the old stuff was "at one" with the smooth paint above, and there was nowhere to even catch your nail on, let alone get behind it.

I'm guessing there was an all encompassing layer of clear coat that made the seamless transition before, but there isn't even a layer of clear coat on the new stuff, it literally brushes off in your hand. Shoddy doesn't even begin to cover the work done.

You might have been happy with the above, but it's not just a case that there was no prep work done before hand, the materials (stone chip) is the wrong grade, the new paint is godawful, and clearly it wasn't applied correctly even if it had been the right stuff.
 
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