Soldato
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Sod your Dad and pay for the car yourself. It's your car!
If you can't afford it then cycle.
If you can't afford it then cycle.
A small crack in my windscreen
- Thread starter Chives
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I can see spider cracks from the epicentre of the damage, they appear to spread outside of the photo aperture. If I'm seeing what I think I'm seeing, then yes it is most definately an MOT failure it is a stuctural piece of safety glass. Hairline cracks in glass are really thin.
Unless driving about with a windscreen that is well beyond repair is perfectly acceptable?
Unless driving about with a windscreen that is well beyond repair is perfectly acceptable?
Could you show me which part of the MOT test it would fail?
There is no reference to damage to the screen which is not visible from the drivers seat. The damage on this windscreen hasn't encouraged onto the clear section of glass even.
I'm not saying I wouldn't replace it - I would - but I'm also not seeing the critical safety issue people here seem to see leading many to suggest he doesn't drive the car?
It'll get worse - and when it does, it becomes a more serious issue but currently I can't see what the problem is by the fact its unsightly and liable to grow in size?
And for those saying it cannot be fixed You are wrong. The moisture is sucked out of the cracks & impact point & then it's filled with a very strong resin. The cracks would be barely visible after & the impact point would just be a small blemish in the screen.
And before you say it, The Insurance companys are quite happy with these repairs & pay for them under your screen cover.
And before you say it, The Insurance companys are quite happy with these repairs & pay for them under your screen cover.
[TW]Fox;23971176 said:
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/c...nualsandguides/mottestingmanualsandguides.htm
Class V, Windscreen;
Reasons for rejection:
A. The presence of an object which seriously restricts the driver's view of the road ahead, bearing in mind the original design of the vehicle
B. any crack, surface damage or iscolouration which seriously restricts the driver's view of the road to the front or side
It would depend on the tester, but I suspect most would fail it as I think the guidelines are or at least were 40mm outwith zone A.
How can it possibly seriously restrict the drivers view of the road?!
It's on the black opaque section of the screen!
[TW]Fox;23971224 said:
It clearly stretches out beyond the edging!
It would depend on how far out it goes, and how it looks from the inside. Cracks can be very deceptive, and in strong sunlight can certain cause disctraction and some testers are stricter than others.
There should be more detailed regulation come guidance I'll try to find it.
Please tell me you are not looking at the dark mark? That's a reflection from the telegraph pole in the background
None of the 'cracks' radiating from the impact point extend into the clear section of the windscreen. They are very faint anyway!
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Since when was a Seat Ibiza a Minibus? It won't fail under that at all.
No Fox, that would be obvious back ground markings I'm talking about the lines coming away from the chipped area, look closely;
They are faint but it depends how far they travel into the clear area. If they don't, it won't take long.
They are faint but it depends how far they travel into the clear area. If they don't, it won't take long.
jesus 4 pages of arguing over a bloody cracked windscreen..
Class IV (cars)
Opaque edging on a windscreen (usually black, particularly at the lower edge) found on some modern vehicles is not to be regarded as part of the windscreen when assessing the drivers view through the windscreen within 8.3 Item 1 of the Inspection Manual.
Windscreen Inspection Zone
Zone 'A is:
The swept area of the Windscreen, 290mm wide centred on the centre of the steering wheel.
Reason for rejection
1. In Zone 'A:
a. damage not contained within a10mm diameter circle,
c. a combination of minor damage areas which seriously restricts the driver's view
In the remainder of the swept area:
d. damage not contained within a 40mm diameter circle,
Further more
Repaired windscreens must be inspected to the same test criteria as unrepaired windscreens.
Repairs must be judged solely on the basis of whether they interfere with vision. An ‘invisible’ or barely detectable repair, finished flush with the surrounding glass, does not count as damage even if it exceeds the limit on damage allowed in the test.
If these criteria are met, the position and size of repairs is not relevant for the purposes of the test.
OP, just drive the bloody thing and get it replaced if it gets worse.
Class IV (cars)
Opaque edging on a windscreen (usually black, particularly at the lower edge) found on some modern vehicles is not to be regarded as part of the windscreen when assessing the drivers view through the windscreen within 8.3 Item 1 of the Inspection Manual.
Windscreen Inspection Zone
Zone 'A is:
The swept area of the Windscreen, 290mm wide centred on the centre of the steering wheel.
Reason for rejection
1. In Zone 'A:
a. damage not contained within a10mm diameter circle,
c. a combination of minor damage areas which seriously restricts the driver's view
In the remainder of the swept area:
d. damage not contained within a 40mm diameter circle,
Further more
Repaired windscreens must be inspected to the same test criteria as unrepaired windscreens.
Repairs must be judged solely on the basis of whether they interfere with vision. An ‘invisible’ or barely detectable repair, finished flush with the surrounding glass, does not count as damage even if it exceeds the limit on damage allowed in the test.
If these criteria are met, the position and size of repairs is not relevant for the purposes of the test.
OP, just drive the bloody thing and get it replaced if it gets worse.
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4 pages here. when at work and 3G is shockingly **** I don't want to have to download a massive page..
and it is 10/40mm I just said that.
10mm when it's inside Zone A and 40mm when outside ( but still within swept area)
Straight from testers manual
and it is 10/40mm I just said that.
10mm when it's inside Zone A and 40mm when outside ( but still within swept area)
Straight from testers manual