I predict we're going to see dramatic improvements from AMD

Gregster · 26 Mar 2013 at 12:08

@ Rossi I would rather have smooth gaming over more fps anyday. It is a good idea and you can still bench and show how many fps there is, without it running smooth at all. Skewed results but hey, if it gets your brand on top of Bench results, who cares

tommybhoy · 26 Mar 2013 at 12:40

Besty said:
Allow me to drop a grenade in here as i run in the opposite direction.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6857/amd-stuttering-issues-driver-roadmap-fraps

Thanks for the heads up on a smashing read and letting me just revert back to what my eyes notice instead of putting emphasis down on flawed results through Fraps.

Rilot · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:09

I've cleaned up the thread. Stop it with the petty bickering or I'm going to start suspending people.

ubersonic · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:17

rolypolyman said:
'Nvidia has always had better drivers' is a myth perpetuated by Nvidia and nvidia owners.

And ATi/AMD owners, don't forget you have to actually own a card to experience driver issues with it

Seriously you can call it a "myth" all you like but the difference in driver quality/consistency is real and many many people have experienced it, Nvidifans, ATidiots and people with no allegiance. I would have loved to have kept my HD7950b as it was a great card but I had to put my hand in my pocket and move to a GTX670 in order to actually play my favourite game after getting tired of waiting for AMD to fix the drivers.

Over the years I have owned just as many AMD cards as Nvidia, hell my first card after 3DFX departed was a Radeon 8500, I am the very definition of impartial, I go with what offers the best result for my money, but when I figure that out I bear in mind AMD's driver record and the benefits of PhysX, however I have no problem saying that the best currently is AMD, but only because they finally fixed the driver issues plaguing the 7900 series.

Rusty0611 · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:19

Never really had many problems with either that were worth writing home about but I do get the impression that if I was to take a theoretical probability of running into driver issues, it would be higher on AMD than nVidia and probably more annoying to resolve. No factual basis on this observation, just my own feel on the situation.

rolypolyman · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:25

Rusty0611 said:
Never really had many problems with either that were worth writing home about but I do get the impression that if I was to take a theoretical probability of running into driver issues, it would be higher on AMD than nVidia and probably more annoying to resolve. No factual basis on this observation, just my own feel on the situation.

Exactly, perpetuating the myth.

d_brennen · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:26

Never had any AMD issues at all, not even the Youtube idle clocks thing which "absolutely, definitely crash the driver or cause a grey screen". So ronely

/anecdote

Rusty0611 · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:27

rolypolyman said:
Exactly, perpetuating the myth.

No smoke without a fire as they say...

LtMatt · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:29

If AMD drivers were even half as bad as people make out i would have stopped using their cards long ago and im sure the majority of happy AMD users here feel the same.

LtMatt · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:35

LtMatt said:
If AMD drivers were even half as bad as people make out i would have stopped using their cards long ago and im sure the majority of happy AMD users here feel the same.

I should add that despite all the driver flak AMD gets, they're still winning in all the latest games vs the similarly priced Nvidia options. That is a true sign of how bad these AMD drivers are.

Bioshock, just released is another comfortable victory for AMD. So whilst AMD have their terribly fast drivers, Nvidia have their steady but slower drivers.

EDIT

I should add that according to the Anand article when AMD improved their latency in boarderlands 2 they saw up to 13% more performance. If even 10% of that is carried over into other games then expect the gap to get larger.

rolypolyman · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:40

I would like someone to explain to me why I have had no driver issues of any kind for at least 2-3yrs having had both Nvidia and Amd cards in that time. I always install drivers over drivers, none of that driver sweeper nonsense, I install new drivers fairly regularly and have had most of the beta drivers of 13.2 and 13.3, yet no problems! Its a mystery to me but heyho.

Rusty0611 · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:43

rolypolyman said:
I would like someone to explain to me why I have had no driver issues of any kind for at least 2-3yrs having had both Nvidia and Amd cards in that time. I always install drivers over drivers, none of that driver sweeper nonsense, I install new drivers fairly regularly and have had most of the beta drivers of 13.2 and 13.3, yet no problems! Its a mystery to me but heyho.

I think you're looking at it too simplistically. You having no problems does not mean that everyone will have no problems nor does it mean that any issues that people do have are automatically their fault.

I do think on the whole driver problems are grossly overstated as you automatically get people who don't know what they're doing blaming the drivers when they've got some strange goings ons in their system. Doesn't mean that problems don't exist, however.

LtMatt · 26 Mar 2013 at 15:43

rolypolyman said:
I would like someone to explain to me why I have had no driver issues of any kind for at least 2-3yrs having had both Nvidia and Amd cards in that time. I always install drivers over drivers, none of that driver sweeper nonsense, I install new drivers fairly regularly and have had most of the beta drivers of 13.2 and 13.3, yet no problems! Its a mystery to me but heyho.

Because you're like the rest of us mate who don't get any issues, or any serious ones anyway. Things just work most of the time as they should. Its a good life eh.

rolypolyman · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:00

Aye, wiggles me toes in me slippers and cosy up to my nice computer for some more Tombraider goodness. LOL.

NZXT30 · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:00

Havana_UK the prophet.

Rusty0611 · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:01

rolypolyman said:
Aye, wiggles me toes in me slippers and cosy up to my nice computer for some more Tombraider goodness. LOL.

NZXT30 said:
Havana_UK the prophet.

LOL to both especially the prophet comment. Good banter

.

LtMatt · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:01

rolypolyman said:
Aye, wiggles me toes in me slippers and cosy up to my nice computer for some more Tombraider goodness. LOL.

I hope you have a pair of tiger slippers like me.

d_brennen · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:04

I've always maintained there are some people who could get into bother in an empty room. Also if something does not work right on Nvidia hardware it's shoddy game development, if it's on AMD it's the because "the drivers sux lawls"

Final8y · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:06

LtMatt said:
Because you're like the rest of us mate who don't get any issues, or any serious ones anyway. Things just work most of the time as they should. Its a good life eh.

I was expecting to have allot more issues seeing as im a Quadfire user since the 3xxx, but for me personally its been great.

LtMatt · 26 Mar 2013 at 16:08

Final8y said:
I was expecting to have allot more issues seeing as im a Quadfire user since the 3xxx, but for me personally its been great.

I used to dream about owning a 5970. I remember looking many years ago at them on ocuk and thinking christ if i sold a kidney i could have one.

Its never too late to upgrade from your 5970's Finally.