Girl found dead in house with dogs 'out of control'

J0hnb0y said:
I'd rather not be attacked by either, but I would go for the King Charles. The fact is, I am sure loads of people have been bitten by King Charles Spaniels. They are not particularly strong which is probably the reason why there are not too many deaths. Does this mean the dog wasn't trying to kill?

The plain fact is, dogs do not kill for sport. They are far too simple for such a "thought"
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My old lurcher used to love nibbling flies and bees to pieces. He would also catch small animals in the garden, like birds, and not kill and eat them but rather injure them instead. I'm sure he did that for fun, just like a cat playing with a mouse. I wouldn't say they're too simple for thought.
 
But even so, since when has 'feelings' been the deciding factor on what make something/someone 'better' than another
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...as soon as you realise that your dog is not just an item but a friend and companion, including valuable member of the family.
 
Two humans.

One is 7 foot tall, 20 stone with a knife, the other is 4 foot, 5 stone with a cocktail stick.

Which one would you use to protect you? It would be the 7ft staff for me.

Natural selection/evolution dictates a staff has the potential to be more dangerous than most of the dogs out there.
 
AndrewNR said:
Two humans.

One is 7 foot tall, 20 stone with a knife, the other is 4 foot, 5 stone with a cocktail stick.

Which one would you use to protect you? It would be the 7ft staff for me.

Natural selection/evolution dictates a staff has the potential to be more dangerous than most of the dogs out there.
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Just because someone is big and tall and equipped doesn't make them inherently more aggressive or violent though.

If the 7ft 20stone guy with a knife was a complete fairy who wouldn't harm a fly, he still wouldn't be much good to you would he?
 
The most aggressive dog I have come across is the neighbours Jack russell. Just knows no fear. It's preference is for altercation with staffies :D
 
ethan said:
...as soon as you realise that your dog is not just an item but a friend and companion, including valuable member of the family.
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I realised that years ago when as a kid I had a Jack Russell. Nipper was the runt of the litter but we loved him no less for it and when he was unfortunately put down aged 8 because of problems with his lungs (runt of the litter) it was horrible.

I wouldn't say the emotional attachment I had with him made him equal to a human though - given a choice between losing him and losing a human family member I'd have gotten rid of Nipper like a shot.

So would you.
 
Moley said:
I realised that years ago when as a kid I had a Jack Russell. Nipper was the runt of the litter but we loved him no less for it and when he was unfortunately put down aged 8 because of problems with his lungs (runt of the litter) it was horrible.

I wouldn't say the emotional attachment I had with him made him equal to a human though - given a choice between losing him and losing a human family member I'd have gotten rid of Nipper like a shot.

So would you.
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A dog would be damn more grateful for you saving its life than any human ever would be.
 
[TW]Fox;24010385 said:
Why is it always Staffies though? When was the last time a pack of labradors went on a rampage?
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They're a popular breed with the sort of people who either want their dog to be dangerous or who unintentionally make dogs dangerous through incompetence, neglect and/or abuse.

As far as I know, the breed responsible for most dog attacks in the UK is border collie. There are definitely some breeds in which there is more of a tendency towards being more likely to attack, but there's a lot of individual variation and how they're treated is a huge factor.
 
Moley said:
I realised that years ago when as a kid I had a Jack Russell. Nipper was the runt of the litter but we loved him no less for it and when he was unfortunately put down aged 8 because of problems with his lungs (runt of the litter) it was horrible.

I wouldn't say the emotional attachment I had with him made him equal to a human though - given a choice between losing him and losing a human family member I'd have gotten rid of Nipper like a shot.

So would you.
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Family maybe not. Non family members (depending on who they were ) :D
 
I'm just playing devils advocate. You can't give me a good reason why humans are worth more than any other animal on this earth. Seriously, from an evolution perspective, what would be your reason? Surely all are equal?
 
As far as I know, the breed responsible for most dog attacks in the UK is border collie.
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as far as my experience is concerned that is correct. My own Border Collie is an absolute nightmare with other dogs, particularly staffies.
 
Jason2 said:
I'm just playing devils advocate. You can't give me a good reason why humans are worth more than any other animal on this earth. Seriously, from an evolution perspective, what would be your reason? Surely all are equal?
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We have evolved our way to the top that's we are here now able to discuss this can't see a ******* staff doing the same thing. :rolleyes:
 
Moley said:
given a choice between losing him and losing a human family member I'd have gotten rid of Nipper like a shot.

So would you.
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Unfortunately not everyone has family that loves and cares about them, plenty of people would choose to save a loyal pet over a family member!
If you could see the way said family member treats/treated them you wouldn't blame them either!!
 
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