Father sentenced to 10 years for killing baby daughter

Mr-White · 27 Mar 2013 at 12:58

Pestilence said:
Ban football. Sick filth.

Ban just the Arse fans

MW

PapaLazaru · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:02

Jason2 said:
Would you be forgiving of such a disgrace of human being?

But your good Lord states you must? Are you experiencing a lack of your faith, or are you just talking our of your deluded rectum again?

MrRoper · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:15

Jason2 said:
Ha maybe it isn't, but it's hard to remain calm when you read about such cases. There was one not too long ago when a guy repeatedly smashed a baby against a wall. Would you be forgiving of such a disgrace of human being? If you can, you're better man than me.

But we are all sinners in the eyes of the lord...... So i pressume he will be forgiven?

LordSplodge · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:31

Cases like this makes me think there should be some pre-procreation test to see if people have the temperent.

Can't wish death upon him but I hope his childs face haunts him everyday until he dies.

Jason2 · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:31

PapaLazaru said:
But your good Lord states you must? Are you experiencing a lack of your faith, or are you just talking our of your deluded rectum again?

I'm only human...

Jason2 · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:32

MrRoper said:
But we are all sinners in the eyes of the lord...... So i pressume he will be forgiven?

Where does the bible say everyone will be forgiven?

d_brennen · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:36

He will if he accepts Christ, but this is for another thread. Lots of low lifes find god in the clink

Ewaf · 27 Mar 2013 at 13:56

Literally sickens me. Only 10 years? Seriously?

realBabelfish · 27 Mar 2013 at 14:23

RDM said:
How likely is the shoplifter to actually end up in a Cat A prison? How likely are they to be attacked? High risk prisoners are, after all, at much greater risk.

But that problem isn't going to be solved by putting high risk prisoners in general population, you would only make things worse.

plenty of murderers in cat b too. plus, everyone generally goes into the same nick initially. some are sent out to lower cat prisons later in their sentences, many just stay in their local nicks for the duration. IIRC most towns with 1 prison will have a cat b.

maybe i just think people who have done really bad things deserve a bit worse time than people who have done relatively minor crimes. i dont think being locked away with other sex offenders is really the same level of punishment

RDM · 27 Mar 2013 at 15:26

realBabelfish said:
maybe i just think people who have done really bad things deserve a bit worse time than people who have done relatively minor crimes. i dont think being locked away with other sex offenders is really the same level of punishment

The punishment is the removal of liberty though, not getting assaulted whilst locked up. If you want corporal punishment then make a case for that, rather than doing it on the sly using "prison justice" which in reality is no justice at all.

To be honest we shouldn't be locking people up who have done relatively minor crimes, but proper rehabilitation isn't politically popular in the UK.

semi-pro waster · 27 Mar 2013 at 20:53

Energize said:
The mens rea for murder and voluntary manslaughter are the same, on the balance of probabilities it's hard to see any diminished responsibility defence here which would reduce the murder charge to manslaughter.

The balance of probabilities would be the wrong test though. For criminal cases it is beyond reasonable doubt - if he's not guilty of murder beyond a reasonable doubt then it could be sensible to try for the lesser offence as it is perhaps more likely to result in a conviction.

I take the point that from that article you might not see any reason to argue a defence regarding reduced culpability but I'd again point out that we're not privy to all the facts here.