Are people starting to lose interest in Apple?

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No I am 28 and I was simply proving my point multiple times that apple are expensive which is relevant to the thread. Anyway this is an apple thread full of apple fans so as I said before it is like trying to tell a christian that god does not exist or similar so I am going bye this is tedious.
 
No I am 28 and I was simply proving my point multiple times that apple are expensive which is relevant to the thread. Anyway this is an apple thread full of apple fans so as I said before it is like trying to tell a christian that god does not exist or similar so I am going bye this is tedious.

Well what you're trying to say can't be proven either way, just like you can't prove whether god does or doesn't exist, so you're wasting your time trying to prove something that is impossible to prove.
 
Apple is an expensive brand.....well, there's a shock. Expensive doesnt mean priced out of the market though, and the proof is in the popularity.... If Apple products were that overpriced then they wouldnt sell. But they do. By the truck load. Are they more expensive compared to other products, at least on technical specifications and performance? Yes, but until somebody else comes up with a product that competes with the iPhone or the iPad or the Air/Mac/Macbook ect in the areas that matter to the people buying them, then those prices are entirely justified.


I guess the point is; Suck it up and move on... because it wont change.


Oh, and I'm bored now. I'm going, bye. Well, at least until somebody replies to the thread, anyway.
 
Apple is an expensive brand.....well, there's a shock. Expensive doesnt mean priced out of the market though, and the proof is in the popularity.... If Apple products were that overpriced then they wouldnt sell. But they do. By the truck load. Are they more expensive compared to other products, at least on technical specifications and performance? Yes, but until somebody else comes up with a product that competes with the iPhone or the iPad or the Air/Mac/Macbook ect in the areas that matter to the people buying them, then those prices are entirely justified.


I guess the point is; Suck it up and move on... because it wont change.


Oh, and I'm bored now. I'm going, bye. Well, at least until somebody replies to the thread, anyway.

I think you're spot on. When someone does as something as good as I find the iPhone, but for less, I'll switch in a heart beat as I'd be more than happy to save myself some money. It just hasn't happened yet, and with the direction that competing products seem to be continuing to go in, it seems unlikely to happen anytime soon.
 
But now you are contradicting what was said earlier about apple being good because of convenience and that they should only be compared to ready built systems.

No i'm not, although I don't think I ever went for the convenience card, that was others. You still get a machine that is quiet, powerful and has a warranty on the entire thing for about the same price as the competition. It only becomes "more expensive" when you compare it to things that aren't comparable, for example your non server spec components compared to a pre built workstation, or your gaming computer compared to an iMac...

You still haven't proven anything, other than what no one has disagreed with, that upgrade prices are expensive for no real reason. iPhones aren't much more than comparable phones (other new top end phones, not year old ones), Mac Pros aren't much more than other server grade workstations (but a lot more than custom built gaming machines) and iMacs that are similar in price to a custom built machine that is actually comparable.
 
The cases aren't noisy, it's the components inside. Plus if you don't use a fan controller then of course it is going to be loud as your computer doesn't care how loud it is as long as it is running cool.

Plus big versus small (a.k.a. ATX+ versus ITX) is I'd say a budget issue. ITX builds will cost more because many of them will require watercooling due to lack of decent airflow through the case or size restrictions for a meaty heatsink.

Of course the majority of builds you see here will be based on ATX because that is the standard. Desktop PCs are not designed to be plonked in the living room next to a TV, that's what a HTPC is for.

But still they're big, hideous and noisy, even with fan controllers. I haven't seen one "gaming" computer that is actually as quiet as something like an iMac or many high end pre built machines. My current machine is a passive ITX running a 3550k so it's easily doable, but as you point out, more expensive. Which ties back nicely with the suggestion that a gaming machine isn't really comparable to an AIO!
 
But still they're big, hideous and noisy, even with fan controllers. I haven't seen one "gaming" computer that is actually as quiet as something like an iMac or many high end pre built machines. My current machine is a passive ITX running a 3550k so it's easily doable, but as you point out, more expensive. Which ties back nicely with the suggestion that a gaming machine isn't really comparable to an AIO!

Mine's definitely as quiet as an iMac, but then I have gone to extremes to achieve that! And it's not as amazingly powerful as it could be (although I was eyeing up a GTX660 - I think I could cool that with one 1000rpm 120mm fan).
 
Never had any interest in buying Apple products to start with, it's interesting to keep up-to-date with the latest products but that's about it.
 
Nope just I have better things to do and I know I am right

NirK said:
I am bored of this now

NirK said:
Anyway I am not saying anything else...

This thread is annoying me slightly

I give up.

Im out.

I should have just given up about 3 pages ago really

Im not saying anything else because it is pointless.

I am going bye this is tedious

What behaviour?

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What behaviour? Being right and giving proof? Shocking behaviour

I was referring mainly to the obnoxious attitude. All you seem to have said is that Apple's upgrades are expensive, and I don't think anyone here has really disagreed with that. What you've failed to really explain is why we should care if the cost of RAM from Apple is 3, 6 or even 10 times the cost of buying and fitting the sticks yourself. We all understand that Apple is a 'for profit' company, and therefore clearly isn't going to be selling RAM to customers for at-cost price, and we all understand that companies can only sell products to consumers at prices that consumers are willing to pay, and I'd suggest that Apple not really budging on upgrade costs seems to suggest that consumers think their prices are fair. We all also understand that deviations from standard specifications (essentially creating bespoke devices for customers) is more expensive than simply making a whole lot of one product in a standard spec, so that too will naturally push up the price of the upgrades.

And we can see this sort of pricing strategy from not just Apple's peers, but in other completely different markets too (such as upgrades to the base spec of a car model etc).

So at the end of the day, it ultimately begs the question, what's your actual point?
 
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My point is that apple products are overpriced and that people who buy them are either misinformed or very susceptible to marketing and branding.

Anyway I should have never even said anything in this thread because it is like walking into manchester united football club and saying how much better manchester city is.

Complete waste of time I am going bye. (or am I?)
 
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