Bedroom tax

neocon said:
It's a nuclear power station, who wants a council estate built near their house?
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Nothing wrong with Council estates. Its the people who the Councils put in them that are the problem!

Same with Nuclear power stations. There is a big difference between living next to One of these and living next to a 40 year old reactor built to a 50 year old design built on the beach in an Earthquake/Tsunami zone!
 
Dolph said:
So how much unemployment is worth a high minimum wage?
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Well, as we discussed earlier, the minimum wage has no overall impact on unemployment, and very little impact on youth employment even during downturns.

I'm sure you remember, it was one of the times we read your own links and pointed out how they contradicted you?
 
Mr Jack said:
Well, as we discussed earlier, the minimum wage has no overall impact on unemployment, and very little impact on youth employment even during downturns.

I'm sure you remember, it was one of the times we read your own links and pointed out how they contradicted you?
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So by that logic, we can go for £100 an hour tomorrow with no impact? or are you going to acknowledge that the nmw can have an impact depending on the level set, which is what the link scorza provided points towards...
 
scorza said:
After the VAT rise, tax credits cut and the new bedroom tax, the Tories look set to continue their jihad against the poor with their sights firmly set on the minimum wage next. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/996...bs-or-damage-economy-Government-suggests.html
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Yeah, I personally preferred the borderline irreparable damage that labour have caused to the country over the last 2 decades. Labour created the issue of telling people on benefits that they can have whatever they want and that they deserve everything they want. The idea that having children is a career and that the state should cover you regardless of how little you care to contribute. You cannot expect those that deserve help to get anything like what they deserve when you give so much to those that are undeserving.
 
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Biohazard said:
What the hell has that got to do with the topic in hand?
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Well given your RSS feed I think it highlights quite nicely the insincerity of the self confessed golf enthusiast First Ministers tutting and concern for the Scots hit by this unfair attack on the poor. Mean while he clearly suffers sleepless nights worrying whilst he continues his habit of booking "business meetings" with his undisclosed rich business friends in plush luxury hotels coinciding with major golf tournaments costing the Scottish taxpayer thousands of pounds that might be better spent on relief for the Scots hit by the "bedroom tax".

In this case I can see how six meetings in a week and a two hour chauffeured drive in the morning and evening would be too much for him. Much better he spend the tax payers money on a luxury hotel previously used by Bonnie Prince Charlie. I'm sure Wee Wreck couldn't resist the opportunity :D
 
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Macro said:
Well given your RSS feed I think it highlights quite nicely the insincerity of the self confessed golf enthusiast First Ministers tutting and concern for the Scots hit by this unfair attack on the poor. Mean while he clearly suffers sleepless nights worrying whilst he continues his habit of booking "business meetings" with his undisclosed rich business friends in plush luxury hotels coinciding with major golf tournaments costing the Scottish taxpayer thousands of pounds that might be better spent on relief for the Scots hit by the "bedroom tax".
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RSS feed? What is wrong with quoting articles of interest to the discussion?

"Business meetings" and "undesclosed rich business friends". Well I don't think there's much I can do about such paranoia. Relief is being made for the impact of this tax; that doesn't mean Government stops functioning and ministers stop petitioning and lobbying for business.

Macro said:
In this case I can see how six meetings in a week and a two hour chauffeured drive in the morning and evening would be too much for him. Much better he spend the tax payers money on a luxury hotel previously used by Bonnie Prince Charlie. I'm sure Wee Wreck couldn't resist the opportunity :D
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It may have well been a more cost effective use of his time.

I still fail to see what this has to do with the Tory 'bedroom tax' and the tacit Labour support, lies and outright hypocrisy.
 
Dolph said:
So by that logic, we can go for £100 an hour tomorrow with no impact? or are you going to acknowledge that the nmw can have an impact depending on the level set, which is what the link scorza provided points towards...
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Has anyone suggested a £100/hr minimum wage? No? Ludicrous hyperbole will get you nowhere, Dolph. The fact is that the evidence suggests that, even in a downturn, the effect of the minimum wage on employment is minimal.
 
Mr Jack said:
Has anyone suggested a £100/hr minimum wage? No? Ludicrous hyperbole will get you nowhere, Dolph. The fact is that the evidence suggests that, even in a downturn, the effect of the minimum wage on employment is minimal.
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and all the link scorza posted suggests is that the low pay commission has a remit to ensure it stays that way...
 
Right, Dolph is actually correct in his base theory. Controlled wages, high ones, have a depressing effect on the labour market. I don't agree we have high wages, and the result is dependent on the movement of the market but the answer is not a reduction in NMW. Business already have the option of a cheaper supply of labour by lower rates for youth workers, what we need is better economic management and investment not a further reduction in living standards.
 
Blockade the Bailiffs – Take On The Sewer Rats Set To Profit From Welfare Reform

Over the next few months hundreds of thousands of people face losing their homes due to the Bedroom Tax whilst others will be driven into debts they can never pay by the endless tsunami of cuts to benefits.

Already some companies are salivating at the prospect of dragging families from their homes and stealing the few remaining possessions of those with least. Little more than a privatised police force to protect the profits of bankers and landlords, bailiffs will be just one of the many sectors getting rich on the back of the brutal and shambolic welfare reforms.

In the North West of England, Jacobs Bailiffs, one of the largest firms in the area, are chomping at the bit to get started. A post on their website details how they have been actively promoting their vile services to make every last penny they can from the misery to come. Whilst exhibiting at a trade show for local authorities recently, Jacobs Bailiffs boasted that “with Welfare Reforms taking effect from 1st April the Jacobs team can talk you through our recovery strategies for maximising collections.”

A communications blockade against the company has been called for this Monday (29th April) in what will hopefully be the first of many attempts to hold these scum to account for their actions.

For more details join the facebook page or visit: no links with swearing in them please!

Please spread the word.

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spankingtexan said:
I don't tell lies, 660,000 will be hit who can't afford the extra costs.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/mar/30/bedroom-tax-disaster-housing-chief
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They will not be made homeless though, they will just have to cut back on their sky-sports subs or smoke and drink a little less for the most part. There is also help supplied by local councils funded by central government for those who are in real verifiable difficulty in meeting their obligations for their rent.

Most of the impact of this is hyperbole and political points scoring..the very way that opposition parties call it a tax is indicative of this as it is no such thing.
 
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I dont know if this bedroom tax is the right one, but something needs to be done with the system.

So much fraud in the council house system at the moment. and apparently so few checks.
 
Castiel said:
They will not be made homeless though, they will just have to cut back on their sky-sports subs or smoke and drink a little less for the most part. There is also help supplied by local councils funded by central government for those who are in real verifiable difficulty in meeting their obligations for their rent.

Most of the impact of this is hyperbole and political points scoring..the very way that opposition parties call it a tax is indicative of this as it is no such thing.
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I'll ignore your sky sport subs and smoke, drink remark but am interested in your statement with the offer of help by local councils for those who can't afford to pay the bedroom tax, source would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
 
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