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So its ok to advocate the murder of someone as long as you don't have the balls to do it yourself? With one hand you are saying Human life is sacred, no matter what they have done, on the other you are saying an eye for an eye?

You are a confused young man.



So its ok to murder or advocate their murder as long as you don't find pleasure in it? I don't know anyone who has taken pleasure in killing, despite the relief sometimes that they are dead and not you or those you are tasked to protect, which I think you are missing by forming your opinion based on a few illegal actions.

Don't have the balls? You make it sound like killing is a noble act.

I never said its OK to take another life. I was speaking in regards to the video I posted. The men can be heard cheering as if it's all one big game. Irrespective of whether they believed they were insurgents, do you believe soldiers should be cheering for killing someone - Taliban or not? I don't.
 
Don't have the balls? You make it sound like killing is a noble act.

To your mind perhaps, it actually means that you are ok with murdering someone as long as you can get someone else to do it..it doesn't imply nobility toward killing, it implies cowardice toward advocating something you have not the conviction to do yourself.....and while i believe killing is sometimes necessary, if everyone at the end of my weapon had laid down theirs and surrendered I would have been far happier, killing someone is not something to be taken lightly or without due consideration, it is a method of last resort, not a method of justice or righteousness.

I never said it's OK to take another life. I was speaking in regards to the video I posted. The men can be heard cheering as if it's all one big game. Irrespective of whether they believed they were insurgents, do you believe soldiers should be cheering for killing someone - Taliban or not? I don't.

Yes you did, you advocated an eye for an eye and then you advocated the opposite...this is your problem. You advocate one thing, then contradict it moments later.

The video is a separate issue, it is not indicative of the whole and should not be used to imply that it is as you are doing.

Are you going to continue proving Robbos point?
 
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Don't have the balls? You make it sound like killing is a noble act.

I never said its OK to take another life. I was speaking in regards to the video I posted. The men can be heard cheering as if it's all one big game. Irrespective of whether they believed they were insurgents, do you believe soldiers should be cheering for killing someone - Taliban or not? I don't.

Just put a sock in it you arse, you sound like a right knob!
 
Richard Feynman worked with nuclear material for years on end, and then suffered cancers MUCH later in his life, epic and genuine heat felt sympathy but nuclear materials don't affect anyone that fast, unless it was a massive mound of material metres high - which I doubt it.
 
What, like Mark Lackenby..who I recall you said you hoped someone killed (done this ***** on the inside' I think your words were)?

How very ironic that now you say a human life is a human life, irrespective of what they have done!

I don't think it is irony Jason2 is exhibiting....more....psychopathy
 
Surely any killing is premeditated, soldiers train to do so and there is certainly some underlying indoctrination (sorry to say) with at least some of the soldiers being trained, if not before enlisting, certainly within the military itself.

I have no qualms about protecting my own life, but i would not view it as purely self defence.

All killings are wrong, there is no reason justified enough in the universe to say otherwise, Law is simply consensus and logic, which can be fallible and sometimes simply archaic.

I realise this is Idealistic, it is, everyone should be at least striving for it, I wont presume the human ego to change, nor mental/psychological illness, but there are solutions to these problems, yet we have cretins wishing everything to be solved by flinging metal at 900 m/s into a skull to be the only cure...that is not only a disservice to the victim, but yourself for even implying it.

Call it leftist, it doesn't really matter, I do also have the belief that people should do what they do best, if that happens to be killing others, well that's unfortunate, especially so since we are sapient beings and can act on our wisdom, thus choosing to be a killer over something else is rather dire, no matter the reason why.

I could go further into it, especially about doing all the unfortunate acts for the elite of the world, but I suppose that could simply come under the previous belief, perhaps the elite are just good at that.

I suppose this rant may have holes in it, I am rather cold and it is late, so forgive me if I seem aimless.
 
Richard Feynman worked with nuclear material for years on end, and then suffered cancers MUCH later in his life, epic and genuine heat felt sympathy but nuclear materials don't affect anyone that fast, unless it was a massive mound of material metres high - which I doubt it.

I don't know enough about depleated uranium and its effects and how quickly it might cause damage but I wouldn't be so quick so discount the damage it could do.
 
Strange, it gets mentioned all the time in the newspapers and media I read...perhaps you need to change your sources of information. It is worth noting that the Taliban and their Allies are actually responsible for over two thirds of the civilian death toll in Afghanistan, you neglected to mention that, or is that not mentioned in the news sources you rely upon to form your opinion.

Sorry Castiel but is that two-thirds of the "official" death toll or two-thirds of the unrecorded final tally of deaths caused by Western intervention from the moment of invasion?

This would include direct and indirect civilian casualties caused by NATO and US bombardment, as well as infrastructure-related deaths when the most advanced weaponry on Earth was unleashed against a Third World country, with the end-result as of this day being an effort to bring the Taliban back to the negotiating table.

A bit OT maybe but something I thought worth pointing out.
 
This story is all a bit weird tbh. There is either a lot more to it or the papers have just made up a load of crap to make it sound bad. Depleted Uranium ammunition has a very low radiation content. It is no more harmful than lead. It is used as it is very dense and works well for armor piercing. Something does not quite add up.

uranium is on the same order of toxicity as lead. Largely from work with animals along with a few instances in which humans inhaled very large amounts of uranium, the chemical toxicity of uranium is known to produce minor effects on the kidney, which in humans who have suffered large acute exposures have been transitory and wholly reversible. Because depleted and natural uranium are only weakly radioactive, radiological effects from ingested or inhaled uranium have not been detected in humans.
 
Why do they deserve respect though? No Afghan ever threatened me!.

Afgans no, but the Taliban most likely. Each time you walk out your front door, on the way to work.. You feel safe because there are those protecting our free living. People have short memories.

And if the current soldiers don't agree with the war in Afghan, then why are they there in the first place? Does simply following orders justify killing? You tell me.

The point I'm making is, you cannot invade a foreign country and impose democracy. I don't think there's one country that is now better from us trying to impose democracy. When we leave Afghan, the Taliban will simply regroup. All those people killed in vain.

The US/Uk have not invaded Afghanistan?? They are attempting to flush out the Taliban so that Afghans get the support and defend themselfs. The war isn't against the Afghans, it's with the Taliban.
 
This story is all a bit weird tbh. There is either a lot more to it or the papers have just made up a load of crap to make it sound bad. Depleted Uranium ammunition has a very low radiation content. It is no more harmful than lead. It is used as it is very dense and works well for armor piercing. Something does not quite add up.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the effect. However, in my opinion the far more likely causative agents would have been exposure to sunlight, vaccination, exposure from the fires in the oil wells, differing pathogens to usual and physiological stress levels. The first and the last being maybe the strongest causative factors along with pathogenic exposure and subsequent removal from exposure.
 
My thoughts on soldier worship.

It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
- Voltaire

Afgans no, but the Taliban most likely. Each time you walk out your front door, on the way to work.. You feel safe because there are those protecting our free living. People have short memories.
Our support of Israel, direct military intervention & our penchant for toppling leaders whom don't play ball is cited as some of the main motivations behind Islamic terrorism.

I'd wager good money we would have had less terrorist attacks if we didn't have the foreign policy we did - I don't see terrorist threats on Holland or Iceland.
 
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lol Jason2 you've rubbed up a few people the wrong way myself included you little scrote bag!

But getting back on topic, i've heard about this already and have already donated. Hope she can get sorted out. Its nice to see soldiers getting the respect they deserve nowa days more than ever, it warms me up, makes me wish i was still in lol.
 
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