Upgrade or new system.

neil pettitt

neil pettitt

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Hi people ,like the title says would it be worth upgrading my current system or take the plunge and buy a new one.
My current system is .
i7 920 . 2.66
gtx 570
asus p6 t se mobo
cm 620 power supply
6 gig ram.
850 hd
xonar ds sound

if i was to get new how much do you think i would have to spend in order to get a system that i would see noticeable improvement.
Like wise if i was to upgrade what should i upgrade to get an improvement.

On the new build side i was hoping around the £1000 mark or higher if thats possible.Im not a pc builder so pre built would be my choice.
Many thanks people..
 
If you are willing to spend the money, get a new system. You could wait for Haswell as it's only June/July till release. Not sure there is much between Ivy & Haswell apart from the IGP though.

Would you keep you case?

YOUR BASKET
1 x HIS HD 7950 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795F3G2M) with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x MSI Z77 MPower Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 ATX Motherboard with FREE F1 RC Car & MSI HDD Enclosure £149.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD128BW) £109.99
1 x XFX 750W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £96.98
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £59.99
1 x **B Grade** Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OE (HD-374-WD) £50
1 x Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) £40
Total : £938.93 (includes shipping : £10.00).

 
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Pointless buying into a dead socket when a new one is just around the corner. Overclock your 920, it's still a very good cpu and should hit 3.8-4ghz. A cpu overclock and graphics upgrade to something like a 7950 would give you a decent upgrade. Then, when Haswell and it's new socket is released you can decide whether to change the cpu and motherboard.
 
Personally, I would keep what you have. Get an aftermarket cooler and OC the 920.
Add in a new Gpu and an ssd, still good for a few more years.
Have a read through this thread, I`m sure the guys in there will give you some good advice.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18501282

Couple of cheap Gpu`s in the clearance section.

YOUR BASKET
1 x **B Grade** Gainward GeForce GTX 680 "GOOD Edition" 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (4260183362500) £299.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7970 Windforce 3X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £239.99
1 x **B Grade** Gainward GeForce GTX 670 Phantom 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with FREE Borderlands 2 & Assassin's Creed III PC Games £229.99
1 x **B Grade** HIS HD 7950 IceQ BOOST 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H795QC3G2M) with FREE Sleeping Dogs, Nexuiz, & CODMW2 PC Games £169.99
Total : £951.96 (includes shipping : £10.00).

 
I agree with Idleman I would be keeping your existing CPU and OCing it with a decent cooler. Those B-Grade cards are at bargain prices!
 
as everyone is saying Oc the hell out of the 920 and see what haswell brings the table you could also wait for you GPU as well the 570 is still a good GPU it wont be long for AMD and Nvidia to bring there new cards out as well
 
first of all many thanks to all you chaps for your advice. Right now you given me something to think of i be got a few more questions.

1 over clocking...I would not know where to start.

2 what exactly are b grade products..?

3 would new ram be a good option ?

4 I have a cm scout case and last time I looked the atI cards looked a bit long, I was told that I could fit 1in but might have to butcher my HD rack.
5 if I was to go with a new case and buy all my new bits from over lockers would they fit my old bits in to my new build or would they only supply.
6 don't want toget into the nvidia v ati wars but if I was to rebuild is there a card more suited to my i7.

cheers chaps
 
neil pettitt said:
first of all many thanks to all you chaps for your advice. Right now you given me something to think of i be got a few more questions.

1 over clocking...I would not know where to start.

Ask the guys in the link I gave you, as a lot of them have the same Cpu, they would be better suited to helping you OC.

2 what exactly are b grade products..?

Mostly unwanted or returned items. May be missing some accessories. They come with a 90 day OCUK warranty, then whatever manufacturer warranty is left.

3 would new ram be a good option ?

Again ask in the link, but if you think you would benefit from more ram, say with certain applications and gaming, you could always get another 6 gb.

4 I have a cm scout case and last time I looked the atI cards looked a bit long, I was told that I could fit 1in but might have to butcher my HD rack.

Can`t see from the specs, can you measure from the expansion slots to the hdd cage.

5 if I was to go with a new case and buy all my new bits from over lockers would they fit my old bits in to my new build or would they only supply.

They either will build new or supply the parts. But there is no harm in asking. It would be easier and cheaper to do it all yourself. I will put a link bottom of the post, video build tutorials.

6 don't want toget into the nvidia v ati wars but if I was to rebuild is there a card more suited to my i7.

Amd offer better value/performance than Nvidia in like for like cards. I would`nt say one was more suited than the other.



cheers chaps
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http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...776&first=0&qpvt=newegg+build+tutorial+videos
 
hey chap, thanks once again . you seem to be very knowledgeable were PCs are conserned ,would it be too much to ask if you could spec me a few bits . I look at all the gear oc sell and to be honest would not know if I was buying good stuff or tat. If you could do this I would get a better idea the true cost would be ..


eg...GPU, ssd, cooler, let's say 8gig ram ,and anything else that would benefit me,...I could do the case bit I think but you could reccomend a good quality case...Manny Manny thanks.
 
Are you likely to go sli or xfire in the near future or more likely to just use a single card set up.
How old is your Psu?

How far from Newark are you?
 
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YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £220
1 x Samsung 256GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD256BW) ** Cash Back Promo ** £179.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x Corsair Obsidian 550D Quiet Midi Tower Case - Black £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £65.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £49.99
1 x Thermalright HR-02 Macho CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366) £39.98
Total : £962.41 (includes shipping : £13.75).

 
thanks a lot for all your help. going to give it some thought as to what to do next. Upgrading sounds good and a cheaper option but if I do manage to raise the cash a new PC is still a new PC and I could sell my old one for a fair price .As for the offer of help building a PC I really appreciate that and if I go down that road I would definitely give a shout. just 1last thing, if you had a budget of about £1000- £1200 what would YOU buy?
 
neil pettitt said:
thanks a lot for all your help. going to give it some thought as to what to do next. Upgrading sounds good and a cheaper option but if I do manage to raise the cash a new PC is still a new PC and I could sell my old one for a fair price .As for the offer of help building a PC I really appreciate that and if I go down that road I would definitely give a shout. just 1last thing, if you had a budget of about £1000- £1200 what would YOU buy?
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Bearing in mind I have the Antec P280, so no need for a case or hdd`s, which I have plenty. So this is what I would get if I had £1200 to spend.
So with the cash back on the ssd and sell all the games, just over £1100.
YOUR BASKET
2 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **NEW REVISION** with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £239.99 (£479.98)
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x Samsung 256GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD256BW) ** Cash Back Promo ** £179.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £136.99
1 x XFX 850W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Silver' Power Supply £99.98
1 x Noctua NH-D14 Dual Radiator CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £62.98
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £49.99
Total : £1,202.50 (includes shipping : £10.50).

 
once again many thanks. Only problem is for every good bit of advice you give me it just gets me asking more questions. Hope your not getting bored with me yet.So come on give me some more....lol.

1 right if that list you did was my build I would have to sacrifice 1of the GPUs in order to get a case and HDD to keep the budget only problem is I've looked at the cases and once again there are that many so come on reccomend me 1. only thing I would like to keep it to say a midi case , not got that much room for a big case.
2 this 1might sound a bit draft but lots of you on here rate the at I 7950 but once again how do you choose your preferred card. .Is it just down to which brand you like or is there's 7950 that stands out from the rest and why?... really hope you don't mind all the questions

Many thanks
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x msi hd 7950 twin frozr iii boost edition 3072mb gddr5 pci-express graphics card **new revision** with crysis 3 & bioshock pc games £239.99
1 x intel core i5-3570k 3.40ghz (ivybridge) socket lga1155 processor (77w) - retail £179.99
1 x samsung 256gb ssd 840 pro sata 6gb/s basic - (mz-7pd256bw) ** cash back promo ** £179.99
1 x corsair obsidian 550d quiet midi tower case - black £119.99
1 x gigabyte z77-d3h intel z77 (socket 1155) ddr3 motherboard £89.99
1 x **b grade** seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm sata 6gb/s 64mb cache - oem (s (hd-255-se) £62.4
1 x avexir core blue series 8gb (2x4gb) ddr3 pc3-12800c9 1600mhz dual channel memory kit (avd3u16000904g-2cw) - blue light £40
1 x thermalright hr-02 macho cpu cooler (socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366) £39.98
total : £968.82 (includes shipping : £13.75).



the 7950 gets recommended a lot because it represents the best value/performance for the money. choosing a card varies. some will just stick with the brand they know, others for the best value all round card and then the enthusiasts. they look at overclocking potential, good cooling, noise levels so they can play their games at max settings with all the bells and whistles. so ultimately you want the best card that your budget allows. there are reviews you can read to help you pick the best 7950, which test noise and temperature levels, ocing potential and gaming benchmarks to compare against other cards. see the link below, that is for the card in the spec.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/45...gb_overclocked_video_card_review/index18.html
 
hey chap what can I say ,utter respect for your in put. Been a small change since last time I posted looks like I might be able to swing a new PC but with a couple of conditions added by my Mrs

1. max spend £1000_£1050

2. all I need is the tower ,desktop what ever you want to call it.got all other bits.

3. this would be for gaming and internet browsing only...abit of a boys toy really.

4.not really done any over clocking but something I would consider in the future so would water cooling be an option.?

5. would definately consider b grade on some items if could improve on GPU or CPU ssd a must,would like at least 256mb. don't think I would need a massive HD, only got 850 at the mo and its no were near full.
6. gonna need an is , bought windows 7but can find thebleeding thing any where.
I know it might be a bit too much to ask but what do you think my old would be worth, stated some specs at the begining of this post . .would be selling to help fund my new build.

hope this is not too much to ask cos you have been a great help so far. Only problem I find with this stuff is once you start you could go on for ever . lol.....just want to be sure I would be getting a decent set up that will last a good few years. Don't get to spend £1000 on a pcthat often, you would brobably see haleys comet again before I could buy a another one.
 
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