Israel launches strike on Syria

you get stupid people everywhere... we got EDL supporters here that are no better... But that is not government official position...

Israel as a state seems to fuel this hatred towards muslims and feels its ok to be racist and discriminate... If this is justified by their eye for an eye theory, and they think its OK to be like that... Might as well wipe them off face of earth.. we dont need another Nazi Germany.

You think thats a good comparison? And EDL members call for the death of people do they?
 
you get stupid people everywhere... we got EDL supporters here that are no better... But that is not government official position...

Israel as a state seems to fuel this hatred towards muslims and feels its ok to be racist and discriminate... If this is justified by their eye for an eye theory, and they think its OK to be like that... Might as well wipe them off face of earth.. we dont need another Nazi Germany.

Yes, a few knucklehead EDL people vs 150,000-200,000 protesters in Bangladesh calling for death to Atheists and a demand for a blasphemy law.

Definitely comparable.
 
Yes, a few knucklehead EDL people vs 150,000-200,000 protesters in Bangladesh calling for death to Atheists and a demand for a blasphemy law.

Definitely comparable.

They are getting chased by government for their extremism which is right... That does not happen in Israel, the state is openly racist towards muslims. Hell, they support it. There is a difference between an extremist gang which is seen in Bangladesh and actual government policy.... You are missing point here... Israel with its stance to Muslims is slowly picking up with Nazi germany policy on Jews. That is the issue.
 
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you get stupid people everywhere... we got EDL supporters here that are no better... But that is not government official position...

Israel as a state seems to fuel this hatred towards muslims and feels its ok to be racist and discriminate... If this is justified by their eye for an eye theory, and they think its OK to be like that... Might as well wipe them off face of earth.. we dont need another Nazi Germany.

Israel attacked a weapons facility in Syria suspected of supplying missiles to Hezbollah. Either you don't remember 2006 or you're being deliberately crass to illicit a reaction.

Either way, I don't think you're mentally competent enough to weigh in on this topic.

e: I know this probably reads as a defense of Israel's actions, but it is not. I just found the quoted post intellectually offensive.
 
Seems like Assad has taken this strike almost as a declaration of war.

What must concern Israel and the west is, the terrorists trying to overthrow Assad, I'm sure they will be anti Israel too and suddenly they will have a country armed to the teeth with chemical weapons and long range missiles . Will it become Al Qaeda's new sanctuary ?
 
Israel attacked a weapons facility in Syria suspected of supplying missiles to Hezbollah. Either you don't remember 2006 or you're being deliberately crass to illicit a reaction.

Either way, I don't think you're mentally competent enough to weigh in on this topic.

e: I know this probably reads as a defense of Israel's actions, but it is not. I just found the quoted post intellectually offensive.

I love how it is the Syrian government that supplies the terrorist that will apparently attack Israel...
I am just wondering, so once the rebels capture a chemical weapons plant or some other warehouse filled with rockets and stuff... being very rogue with no leadership and in most cases from extreme terrorist backgrounds do they just surrender those weapons?

Surely Israel should see the "rebels" who are essentially terrorist as a much bigger threat than Assad?? So why are they helping rebels then? If their main concern is security of their country?? Once rebels come into power there suddenly will not be any arms leak, like there was under Assad?? Those rebels hate Israel probably a lot more than Assad did... It just doesnt make sense at all.

Since you are so "mentally competent" about the issue and the right doing of Israel because in your mind all its doing is protecting itself.. Please do remember Iraq war and the chemical weapons crap, if you are still not up to date please watch bbc panorama on the issue.
 
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What a great post.

You criticise Old Coals speculative statement with sarcasm, on the apparent lack of response of the West, due to not having any actual inside knowledge

[TW]Fox;24232325 said:
Whats it like being on the inside and therefore knowing exactly what has been said?

And then immediately counter it with your own unfounded speculation portraying what you believe the response to be..

I'd imagine there were facepalms all round in the oval office.

Brilliant! :D
 
Indeed. :(

Not many people I don't like as I love all but I find Isareli behaviour appalling and I'm not surprised at this. Whilst a lot of open minded and western Isralies I know are relaxed, humble and not aggressive a lot of them unfortunately are vitriolic and vile people. I dislike everything Israel stands for I'm afraid. I'm pro Arab though and probably a little biased and probably the minority here.

I'm with you here. The issue is not Israel per se, but the Zionist government. People need to understand the difference between being Jewish and being a Zionist. Even some Jewish dislike the Zionists and what they have done.

If anyone calls them to question over their illegal activities, they will hide behind two things:

1. The Holocaust - Undeniably, this happened, but how long is the world going to give leeway because it did happen?
2. The West - As the West continues to back and fund them, they think they have a God given right over land that isn't theirs and can treat people how they wish without realising the irony of the situation.

You look at China defending North Korea, well what are the differences between America and Israel? Other than North Korea doesn't rampage through South Korea or neighbouring countries while the rest of the world sits back and goes tut tut.
 
I love how it is the Syrian government that supplies the terrorist that will apparently attack Israel...
I am just wondering, so once the rebels capture a chemical weapons plant or some other warehouse filled with rockets and stuff... being very rogue with no leadership and in most cases from extreme terrorist backgrounds do they just surrender those weapons?

Surely Israel should see the "rebels" who are essentially terrorist as a much bigger threat than Assad?? So why are they helping rebels then? If their main concern is security of their country?? Once rebels come into power there suddenly will not be any arms leak, like there was under Assad?? Those rebels hate Israel probably a lot more than Assad did... It just doesnt make sense at all.

Since you are so "mentally competent" about the issue and the right doing of Israel because in your mind all its doing is protecting itself.. Please do remember Iraq war and the chemical weapons crap, if you are still not up to date please watch bbc panorama on the issue.


who says israel are helping anyone? mossad gather intel about weapons heading to Hezbollah, IAF goes and blows the **** out of them.

doesn't matter who the weapons belong too or who's transporting them israel will do it regardless.
 
2. The West - As the West continues to back and fund them, they think they have a God given right over land that isn't theirs and can treat people how they wish without realising the irony of the situation.

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sorry but you really can't use "the land isn't theirs" as any form of argument, practically no country in the developed world is inhabited mainly by it's natives any more.

should America be given back? should all of south America be deported to Spain

if the answer is no then you're just arguing time scales, in which case if the Israelis hold onto it long enough then it's A OK right?
 
sorry but you really can't use "the land isn't theirs" as any form of argument, practically no country in the developed world is inhabited mainly by it's natives any more.

should America be given back? should all of south America be deported to Spain

if the answer is no then you're just arguing time scales, in which case if the Israelis hold onto it long enough then it's A OK right?

However, would America forcibly evict the Native Americans from their country today? The argument that several hundred years ago colonisation was ok so it must still be ok today is even more defunct than saying it is ok to remove people from their homes today just to satisfy cultural and religious expansion. The two are worlds apart in comparison and it certainly is no defence.
 
I love how it is the Syrian government that supplies the terrorist that will apparently attack Israel...
I am just wondering, so once the rebels capture a chemical weapons plant or some other warehouse filled with rockets and stuff... being very rogue with no leadership and in most cases from extreme terrorist backgrounds do they just surrender those weapons?

Surely Israel should see the "rebels" who are essentially terrorist as a much bigger threat than Assad?? So why are they helping rebels then? If their main concern is security of their country?? Once rebels come into power there suddenly will not be any arms leak, like there was under Assad?? Those rebels hate Israel probably a lot more than Assad did... It just doesnt make sense at all.

Since you are so "mentally competent" about the issue and the right doing of Israel because in your mind all its doing is protecting itself.. Please do remember Iraq war and the chemical weapons crap, if you are still not up to date please watch bbc panorama on the issue.

I'm not sure I follow your logic on this.

Israel attacked firstly a weapons plant near Lebanon and then a weapons facility in Damascus they suspected was supplying Hezbollah.

[Speculation]I'm quite sure Netanyahu has absolutely no interest in helping the Syrians overthrow Assad - regardless of how Syria's state media is portraying the attacks. It doesn't immediately benefit Israel in any way and they have far more tension to deal with in their immediate neighbours.

Despite this, I'd wager that Assad simply doesn't have the manpower to launch retaliatory attacks on Israel, so his belligerent ranting about the strikes being acts of war are largely hollow threats. More saliently, the Syrian rebels have no beef with Israel so whilst they are undoubtedly militant, they have no means to strike Israel in the near future and are less likely to do so if they believe the Israelis have helped them in some way.[/speculation]

Obviously, this is all just my take on the subject, but I think it would be rather naive to think the Israelis don't know exactly what they're doing.
 
Or so they say. How do we know it wasn't just Israel helping elements of the Syrian opposition which they view as people who could be beneficial for Israel? How do we know it wasn't just Israel taking an opportunity to take out a Syrian chemical weapons dump (one which wasn't intended for use by Hezbollah, or similar)?

It's not as though they're white as white - sending commandos to storm an aid ship, etc!

Well before you vanish entirely down the rabbit hole there, Alice... :p

Western Intelligence agencies have confirmed they supplied the intel to Israel which led to the strikes - why would the West (presumably the US?) get into providing a cover up for Israel? Nobody would be tremendously surprised if they did do it for the reasons you said, so it makes no sense for these Western agencies to get involved at all...?
 
Its funny how those Israel attacks are seen as near to normal... Imagine what would happen if Russia bombed rebels warehouses and positions on accounts that there is weapons leak to Russian militants in Chechnya region... Which is a very fair excuse, whole world and media would go absolute bonkers... But Israel its ok... they went through holocaust they are allowed.

I find all these situations truly ridiculous, we are supplying essentially terrorists including al-qaeda with weapons on the grounds that there should be democracy in Sirya... Clearly no one believes once al-qaeda or other militant groups will come to power there will be any talks of democracy at all... I mean look at Libya, its funny how reports from there have seized all-together... A country that now lives in stone-age torn apart by heavily armed clans who fight against each-other... with stupidly high Muslims extremist taking power... Is this how democracy should look like?
 
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Its funny how those Israel attacks are seen as near to normal... Imagine what would happen if Russia bombed rebels warehouses and positions on accounts that there is weapons leak to Russian militants in Chechnya region... Which is a very fair excuse, whole world and media would go absolute bonkers... But Israel its ok... they went through holocaust they are allowed.

not really,

does the whole world go nuts when America assassinates people with airstrikes in Pakistan or Yemen? they've killed nearly 3 thousand in Pakistan alone.

does the whole world go nuts when Russia wipes out some Chechens?


i think you have a very skewed view if you think most of the world really gives a crap about these places, hell the world didn't go mental when Argentina started a war with the UK.
 
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