A woman lawyer wants the age of consent lowered to 13

I am so glad I put Jason2 on ignore, I just wish you guys wouldn't quote him, and feed the troll. I seriously thought he was banned already.

Ignorance isn't a bannable offence, but voicing that opinion is. And I have a really hard time not doing the second one a lot when it comes to him...
 
She went on to say that "touching a 17-year-old’s breast, kissing a 13-year-old, or putting one’s hand up a 16-year-old’s skirt" were not comparable to gang rapes or murders.

It's not, correct. That doesn't mean that its cool beans. By this logic, I could go key a bunch of cars, scam an old lady out of her pension and fling my poo at group of school kids. Should be perfectly legal, its hardy comparable to gang rape or murder.
 
It's not, correct. That doesn't mean that its cool beans. By this logic, I could go key a bunch of cars, scam an old lady out of her pension and fling my poo at group of school kids. Should be perfectly legal, its hardy comparable to gang rape or murder.

Yeah but even in her version of society we still can't do a little bit of gang raping or murder people... so where is the fun to be had? :(
 
My daughter will be 13 a month tomorrow. The mere thought that she could then reach the age of consent it is utterly repugnant. Mind you, the thought of anyone getting their grubby hands on my daughter when she is 18 or 25 or 40 makes my blood boil.

She can have consensual sex at 16 and when she is 18 she can do what she wants. Even if that is deprived, kinky-ass sex. :p

The more overprotective a father is the more likely it is his daughter will rebel and get up to 'no good'
 
No it wouldn't, it would be sexual assault.

Technically only a male can rape someone as I believe the legislation specifically refers to a male's member! Sexual assault covers everything else.

Practically there's no real difference between rape and sexual assault as the punishment is the same, but they are different offences.

then how come women have been charged with rape in this country as well as others?
 
16 seems a reasonable age of consent to me.

It's there to protect children from abuse from adults. A 16 year old boy isn't going to be hung drawn and quartered for sleeping with a 15 year old girl.
 
Personally I'm of the opinion that it should be 18 myself, like in places like Malta.

Not because of my religious beliefs (which would require someone being married), but because I do not believe that having such a laissez faire attitude is in the interests of people or the country.

We've had a sexual revolution, we've got sex in the TV, a moderately low age of consent, adult material available at a click on the internet and sex education in schools. Now we've got OFSTED saying kids should be taught about porn!?

It isn't working, and whilst we do not have the religious/moral authority of religion to provide guidance, I think a bit more strictness might actually help crack down on the extremely high rate of young pregnancies.

It's in human beings nature to reproduce at a young(ish) age, but not in the interest of people in our society. Tantalising young hormones really isn't helping. :p

Fair enough for being a personal opinion but if we accept that the Dutch are somewhat more liberal and open about sex education then you can also point to the fact that their rate of teen pregnancy is significantly lower than that of the UK (approx. 1/5 in rough terms at 5 per 1,000). They might have sex younger but it appears they are also more responsible about it as well using contraception.

The above might seem counterintuitive but like the belief that harsher punishments reduce recidivism the evidence does appear to point to a position where educating people and treating them respectfully will more often than not lead to a better outcome.

They can with a strap-on

Legally that wouldn't be rape, it would be a sexual assault. The definition of rape in the relevant acts requires penetration with "his penis" and there has to be a lack of consent.

You may think this definition is simply incorrect or too limiting but a woman currently cannot rape a man in England, Wales or Scotland. Personally I think that it should be considered possible for a woman to rape a man but my belief doesn't alter the situation.
 
I still think 16 is way too young. 21 should be the minimum age.

You must have been an incredibly immature 18 year old to believe that.

At some point 'kids' have to learn to become adults. Were you still playing with your baby jesus lego set at 18-20 ?


On the subject of the woman, she's clearly an attention seeker and I hope her career takes the nose dive it deserves.
 
Given that plenty of (probably most) people will have had sex or done something sexual with another person before they become 16 these days the age of consent probably could be lowered.
It just needs to be done sensibly... IMO in the general case, with no restrictions - the age should be 18... For anyone below 18 there should be some sort of max age difference between them and their partners say 2 or 3 years... The 15 yr old and 16 yr old in a relationship are then legally allowed to do what they'll likely be doing anyway but the 40 yr old pervert is stuck to girls aged 18+ only...
 
Let children be children. Why make them grow up so early. Most children aren't mature enough at 16 let alone 13. What's happened to just letting children be young? At 13 I wasn't interested in sex, I wanted to play with my friends, climb trees, ride my bike etc... I wasn't mature enough to be having sex - but then again I was brought up in a time where that sort of things wasn't in your face as it is now, and no internet to get it on either.

I think it's a very dangerous move - I don't want to see children behaving like adults, where's the innocence gone? I think it should be raised if anything rather than lowered.
 
Rather than prohibit sex, I believe it would be a better idea to improve and increase sex education.

One hundred percent this. Sex education needs to be taught properly, and at a much younger age. First and foremost, this teaching must come from parents and children should be taught about condoms and taught that sex isn't a big evil thing to avoid but something to talk about with your parents.

I had sex at what many would consider to be a very young age, I used protection, talked to my parents after the event and continued to have a happy, healthy and safe sex life. I put that down to being taught appropriately and being able to have people to talk about it with.

It doesn't matter if the age of consent is 16, 18, 21, 50, 10 or 13. People will have sex when under the legal age. We need to make sure those that are having sex are doing it safely, and are able to cope emotionally/physically with it.
 
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Without all the sensationalism she actually makes a very good point, ignore the age of consent statement as I believe that to be used more to bring about attention and refer to the Victorian example used in her own published article not the snippets included in the express. Her point rests on the fact that the paedophile 70's witch hunt is not being conducted in the way that a normal criminal investigation would be and that the fact that Operation Yewtree (NSPCC, Scotland Yard and all those involved) are working in a way that is not conducive to bringing about justice but in fact is solely set out to appease victims and in this fact I believe that she is right.
 
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