Girl hits cyclist then jokes about it on Twitter.

[No1newts]

By that explanation I am in agreement. Police yes, employer no. Except under some very defined scenarios where duty of care is expected and driving is part of her job etc. Saying that reporting it to the Police and it being investigated would probably render her with a driving ban and by proxy... you see where I am going with that.

Thank you.

She may well have to drive for her work, if she loses her licence this will effect her employment. This is fair game. However just going up to her employer is vindictive, if she is punished by the police (as she deserves) then she will learn her lesson and have the punishment she deserves as dictated by law. To go further on a witch hunt is out of order.

 

[matt_fsr]

If you put your thoughts and every action into the public domain then do not cry when action is taken against you for publicly announcing you have committed crimes.

Well said.

Perhaps good old fashioned "lines" at school should be 1000 times of writing this out in full!

 

[Mr-White]

Thank you.

She may well have to drive for her work, if she loses her licence this will effect her employment. This is fair game. However just going up to her employer is vindictive, if she is punished by the police (as she deserves) then she will learn her lesson and have the punishment she deserves as dictated by law. To go further on a witch hunt is out of order.

Her employer should complain to their employer and see how they like it.

MW

 

[Weazle]

If "punishable by law" then she could be liable for failing to stop after an accident which is up to 6 months prison ... worst is dangerous driving with up to 2 years prison ... best case is careless driving with a fine of £2000 and penalty points.

https://www.gov.uk/highway-code-penalties/penalty-table

Seriously why post something like this to twitter ..... idiotic

 

[theleg]

If "punishable by law" then she could be liable for failing to stop after an accident which is up to 6 months prison ... worst is dangerous driving with up to 2 years prison ... best case is careless driving with a fine of £2000 and penalty points.

https://www.gov.uk/highway-code-penalties/penalty-table

Shes female, pretty and blonde so almost certain to get off with 250 quid fine and a few points.

 

[mattyg]

The scary thing is she didn't give a hoot whether she had killed this guy.

He could have stood back up and then collapsed and died.

She needs to be made an example of.

 

[zenf]

Its called road safety, if the cylist is in a row of cars, where the cars are grouped together, cars other than the ones closest to the cyclist can have no idea they are there. When they attempt to change lanes because they want to turn left, have no idea the cyclist is there, and try and cut in then smash into a cylist, its bad.

The cyclist is the most in danger, so getting to the front of the queue gives him the safest way to get across a junction because the drivers in the lanes at the front will see him and cyclist gets pretty much to get across the junction before being overtaken, with most relevant cars knowing where he is. Past the junction with less/no turns, traffic as spread out, the cyclist is more visible and is in less danger.

I don't dispute any of that but surely you can see that from one of the car's perspectives, that cyclist you just spent ages trying to overtake safely has just undertaken you at the lights and now you and all the rest of the traffic are stuck behind him again until you can find another rare chance to overtake safely. It comes across as very selfish and arrogant, even if it's justified.

I'm not sure what sorts of times you guys are on the road but it's very rarely safe for me to drive on the opposite side of the road to overtake someone, so it usually ends up with a huge line of traffic stuck behind a single cyclist. It may well be safest for the cyclist but it causes problems for everyone else... However, causing problems for other road users doesn't seem to be a concern for most cyclists.

 

[realBabelfish]

There should be equality. It shouldn't always be the drivers fault. The bikers are just as fallible as the drivers.

+

i was coming back from west yorkshire wildlife park the other weekend and found numerous cyclists (not sure if club or competition) riding 3 abreast, taking up all of our side of the road on windy country roads and couldnt see them until the last minute.

now, if i had hit them would that have been my fault? IIRC cycle riding should always be single file to give room to pass. taking up the whole road is simply idiotic and needs stamping out.

 

[mattyg]

I don't dispute any of that but surely you can see that from one of the car's perspectives, that cyclist you just spent ages trying to overtake safely has just undertaken you at the lights and now you and all the rest of the traffic are stuck behind him again until you can find another rare chance to overtake safely. It comes across as very selfish and arrogant, even if it's justified.

I'm not sure what sorts of times you guys are on the road but it's very rarely safe for me to drive on the opposite side of the road to overtake someone, so it usually ends up with a huge line of traffic stuck behind a single cyclist. It may well be safest for the cyclist but it causes problems for everyone else... However, causing problems for other road users doesn't seem to be a concern for most cyclists though.

I've NEVER been stuck behind a cyclist for longer than maybe a minute. Apart from last week at whinlatter when they were holding some sort of road race.

You have to ask yourself how often does it actually happen?
How much time does it realistically add to my journey?
How many pish poor drivers have pished me off this morning?

 

[londonbairn]

The times I understand it can be naive is the novice, weekend cyclists who don't really know/adhere to the road rules, yet are coated with expensive equipment (I am not bitter - I own a few road bikes including one with Dura Ace Di2 and C50 rims )

An example of a situation whereby I agree with you is where I was on a long straight road that was uphill. I was not at a high speed, and the road was not wide enough to let the huge truck behind and I through at the same time. So I pulled over and waved him to pass. At the traffic lights ahead he actually thanked me.

This argument has no bounds and will never ever be resolved, unless drivers acknowledge pedestrians and cyclists, cyclists ackniowledge drivers and pedestrians etc etc....

 

[mattyg]

+

i was coming back from west yorkshire wildlife park the other weekend and found numerous cyclists (not sure if club or competition) riding 3 abreast, taking up all of our side of the road on windy country roads and couldnt see them until the last minute.

now, if i had hit them would that have been my fault? IIRC cycle riding should always be single file to give room to pass. taking up the whole road is simply idiotic and needs stamping out.

2 abreast is allowed if the road can take it.

In your scenario yes it would have been your fault as you were driving too fast for the conditions(conditions also means too fast round bends)
The same scenario would have been true had it been a slow moving car or tractor or horse.

Or

A broken down vehicle that was actually stationary.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

I robbed a bank back in the summer of '87. Just saying....

 

[tedmaul]

now, if i had hit them would that have been my fault? IIRC cycle riding should always be single file to give room to pass. taking up the whole road is simply idiotic and needs stamping out.

Certainly 2 abreast is perfectly legal. But it should really come down to common sense and courtesy.

If I'm cycling with a friend and we are 2 abreast on a quiet road and traffic approaches from behind, then we'd pull into single file to let them past.

 

[dunker]

I don't dispute any of that but surely you can see that from one of the car's perspectives, that cyclist you just spent ages trying to overtake safely has just undertaken you at the lights and now you and all the rest of the traffic are stuck behind him again until you can find another rare chance to overtake safely. It comes across as very selfish and arrogant, even if it's justified.

I'm not sure what sorts of times you guys are on the road but it's very rarely safe for me to drive on the opposite side of the road to overtake someone, so it usually ends up with a huge line of traffic stuck behind a single cyclist. It may well be safest for the cyclist but it causes problems for everyone else... However, causing problems for other road users doesn't seem to be a concern for most cyclists.

i feel safer staying with the flow of traffic at junctions, and if there ar'nt many behind me i'll wave the remaining motorists past then go through last, why hold them all up is how i see it. also at junctions/lights where motorists may turning right opposite me, they may not see me but you can bet i'm watching them and i've not had one yet that has cut in front of me.

 

[-BA-]

Have to say this is disgraceful but I can certainly understand the frustrations of drivers. Coming home last night on the dual carriageway in dimming evening light and a cyclist merrily poodling along (ableit with hi-vis gear and lights) in the slow lane when not more than 3 yards to his left was a completely separate cycle path (separated by grass verge), running the entire length of the dual carriageway.

 

[theleg]

I've NEVER been stuck behind a cyclist for longer than maybe a minute. Apart from last week at whinlatter when they were holding some sort of road race.

You have to ask yourself how often does it actually happen?
How much time does it realistically add to my journey?
How many pish poor drivers have pished me off this morning?

The ironic thing is that its the good drivers who are respectful of the cyclists that actually get stuck behind them for long periods The bad drivers just dont give a damn and burn right past them.



ps, not saying youre one of the bad ones btw.

 

[platypus]

IIRC cycle riding should always be single file to give room to pass. taking up the whole road is simply idiotic and needs stamping out.

You recall wrongly.

It's courtesy to move over however.

 

[Morba]

For all intents and purposes of the law, a bike is the same width as a car.

Except when they want to cut you up, drive into your mirrors, force you to brake because they decided to slip in between you and the car in front because they cannot get past.

I give bikes space, but some of them need to think a lot more about their road presence.

 

[tedmaul]

Have to say this is disgraceful but I can certainly understand the frustrations of drivers. Coming home last night on the dual carriageway in dimming evening light and a cyclist merrily poodling along (ableit with hi-vis gear and lights) in the slow lane when not more than 3 yards to his left was a completely separate cycle path (separated by grass verge), running the entire length of the dual carriageway.

Surely on a dual carriageway it's pretty easy to overtake the cyclist? Not sure why that's frustrating. The cyclist certainly isn't doing anything wrong and sounds like he was well lit etc for the time of day he was out.

Now personally, I avoid dual carriageways on the bike if at all possible as it's just generally not v pleasant, but i don't see what causes frustration if some choose to use them.

 

[gigeorge]

She's a complete moron and deserves to be spoken to and the appropriate action taken by by the police against her.

However I find it a disturbing trend the witch hunts that quickly now happen on te Internet contacting her employee etc. it's vigilantism in the modern day and a very worrying trend that will need to be clamped down upon at some point. People go out of their way to ruin someone's life behind the anonymity of the Internet under the heading of "good cause" where as in fact it's just as spiteful and hateful as the trolls and Internet abusers out there.

I was thinking along similar lines but then i recall how badly ive been treated by car drivers and thought, no! Perhaps this girl needs to be an example for other motherducking **** drivers who think its ok to pass and drive you off the road.

The highway code states you are to pass a cyclist as you would a horse with a cars width distance between you and the cyclist. I mean really, is your destination more important than a persons life, if so, you're a ducking moron and deserve this level of hate and abuse !

Additionally, i'm not saying all cyclists are pefect, loads ride without lights or ride on pavements and other such stupid things, but so do cars, van drivers, horse riders(with no hi viz) - theres always someone from every form of transport who's a ducking ****. Fact of life. You've just got to make sure you're not one of these !