MP's - Pay rise

UncleRuckus · 20 May 2013 at 18:55

Moses said:
Awarding themselves?

I have emboldened, italicised and underlined the key word, to help you out.

I like how this independent group has MPs on the board.

atpbx · 20 May 2013 at 19:37

lowrider007 said:
This an important point.

What do you think the average persons wages would have to be to enable them to be left with £66,000 a year after thier paying taxes and expenses?

Because whatever that figure is that is what they are currently earning imo.

I can earn that in a year and have an expense account, and I don't do anything like as important as making decisions that effect the course of the country.

Should I give some of it back?

My boss, who isn't even at director level, earns 75k a year, what about him?

DanielMMS · 20 May 2013 at 20:55

UncleRuckus said:
I like how this independent group has MPs on the board.

No it doesn't :confused:

Lakeland · 21 May 2013 at 09:24

atpbx said:
I can earn that in a year and have an expense account, and I don't do anything like as important as making decisions that effect the course of the country.

Should I give some of it back?

My boss, who isn't even at director level, earns 75k a year, what about him?

If you work for a private company then you can earn as much as you like, it is no business of anyones what you earn in that case and good luck to you :cool:

robgmun · 21 May 2013 at 09:35

MrMoonX said:
if you believe the parliamentary standards people are truly independent then you are deluded, they are far from it as they all rub shoulders in the bar at the end of the day

Proof please? Otherwise you're just full of hot air

SpeedFreak · 21 May 2013 at 09:42

sports_brah said:
No disrespect but most teachers are bloody useless.

It's funny the way you say "no disrespect" and then follow it with a disrespectful sweeping generalisation.....

dannyjo22 · 21 May 2013 at 10:01

Lakeland said:
If you work for a private company then you can earn as much as you like, it is no business of anyones what you earn in that case and good luck to you

Clearly after the banking crisis that wasn't the case

DanielMMS · 21 May 2013 at 10:04

sports_brah said:
No disrespect but most teachers are bloody useless.

Really? At my children's schools (they attend separate schools), I can identify two teachers who seem pretty useless out of around 20 that they have between them. The remainder are either good or very good. A number are quite odd but good all the same. So most teachers that I come across are definitely not useless.

Lakeland · 21 May 2013 at 10:22

dannyjo22 said:
Clearly after the banking crisis that wasn't the case

Now there is some murky water being mixed up there

atpbx · 21 May 2013 at 12:06

Lakeland said:
If you work for a private company then you can earn as much as you like, it is no business of anyones what you earn in that case and good luck to you

I just dont understand what the problem with MPs earning 75k is.

Its not an extraordinary amount.

Souleh · 21 May 2013 at 12:12

100k to run the country isnt that bad imo.
The big percentage increase is a problem though.

There needs to be a reform to their payments.

And for those saying about driving the miles- if you are an MP in the north and have to drive to the south for Parliament.. hows that different to me expensing mileage to my company for meeting a company/client in the south? Its just how it works.

MookJong · 21 May 2013 at 12:25

How about a minimal wage with a bonus scheme for meeting the targets and promises on their manifesto....oh wait they would all be on the minimal wage

Lakeland · 21 May 2013 at 13:29

atpbx said:
I just dont understand what the problem with MPs earning 75k is.

Its not an extraordinary amount.

I wouldn't say 75k is either. They're on 65k already, plus expenses which is on average 25k, that's already 90k. Another 20k would make it 110k.

Mr-White · 21 May 2013 at 13:40

atpbx said:
I just dont understand what the problem with MPs earning 75k is.

Its not an extraordinary amount.

It is when they do nothing but extort even more money out the tax payers.

MW

realBabelfish · 21 May 2013 at 14:28

dannyjo22 said:
Perhaps we need to pay more to attract better people from other areas, so we don't get the dross we have?

possibly. but they shouldnt have any external activities such as being directors etc. far too many of them have vested interests in decisions they make when they should think of what is best for the country.

also, they should pay for their 2nd homes from that money.

realBabelfish · 21 May 2013 at 14:34

MagicBoy said:
Local Government workers havn't had a penny in 3 years on their say so and then they go and award themselves tens of thousands.

Scandalous.

not just public sector workers. many private sector employees havent had a pay rise for 4 years (myself included)

Basher · 21 May 2013 at 15:07

realBabelfish said:
possibly. but they shouldnt have any external activities such as being directors etc. far too many of them have vested interests in decisions they make when they should think of what is best for the country.

also, they should pay for their 2nd homes from that money.

Their second homes are only required due to their jobs as MPs, so why should someone other than the government pay for them?

atpbx · 21 May 2013 at 15:16

Mr-White said:
It is when they do nothing but extort even more money out the tax payers.

MW

Problem with your statement, is that its 100% false.

UncleRuckus · 21 May 2013 at 15:35

DanielMMS said:
No it doesn't

If you'd cared to look at the members you'll see it has one of the boys on the board.

ilcp · 21 May 2013 at 16:16

Basher said:
Their second homes are only required due to their jobs as MPs, so why should someone other than the government pay for them?

Like I mentioned before, if you lived in cornwall and got a job in scotland, would you keep your home in cornwall? or sell it and move? Clearly you dont expect your employers to give you extra money for your cornwall residence?

Why should it be different for MPs. If they live far away they should relocate or not have taken the job in the first place. Isnt this the way they abused the expenses? claiming upkeep on one residence, then switching..