Does UKIP have any longevity in politics?

robgmun · 18 May 2013 at 15:15

eggyoke said:
Typical brainless students, flailing their arms, shouting and demanding things that they have no proper life experience in dealing with. Flightful ideologies based on nothing but a moment scratching their arses in a university campus and wanting a bit of fun.

Mindless hypocrites that are given media time and encouraged. I would be frightened to see a world that those idiots envision, you know, lack of reasonable ability to debate, forcing political opposition away through violence?

Sounds marvellous students, marvellous.

Sounds like the Labour party..

NirK · 18 May 2013 at 15:27

deanolfc said:
Britain pretends to be a democracy. If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.

I do worry that this is the case. It seems that whatever party is in the same things happen anyway. I am not sure it even matters who you vote for.

MANFACE · 23 May 2013 at 20:05

Some good policies on their website I totally agree with.

robgmun · 23 May 2013 at 20:55

I wonder if UKIP will gain some numbers on the back of the Woolwich event

Arthur Hucksake · 23 May 2013 at 21:03

robgmun said:
I wonder if UKIP will gain some numbers on the back of the Woolwich event

I doubt it. But the BNP certainly will.

Biohazard · 23 May 2013 at 21:04

UKIP could poll relatively quite well in the mid 20-30% of vote share and get absolutely no where in terms of seats, so I suspect that they will be another victim of our electorial system.

Arthur Hucksake · 23 May 2013 at 21:08

If UKIP had a leader with charisma, they would make huge leaps. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get elected in our life times.

Monkeynut · 23 May 2013 at 21:15

Biohazard said:
UKIP could poll relatively quite well in the mid 20-30% of vote share and get absolutely no where in terms of seats, so I suspect that they will be another victim of our electorial system.

Our electoral system is pretty crappy, but of course the slightly-less crappy one was rejected in anger against the Liberal Democrats, the public are idiotic for two reasons:
1. They used a means of improving the democratic system to instead preserve the status quo to get revenge against Clegg
2. Some seemed to genuinely think it'd be too hard to understand.

Arthur Hucksake said:
If UKIP had a leader with charisma, they would make huge leaps. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they get elected in our life times.

I don't think it's the leader that's the problem. Who else, apart from Farage, is a "brand" in UKIP? It's not a one-man-band, but it's only got one PR man. Perhaps that's a good thing? I'm getting sick of PR men.

deanolfc · 25 May 2013 at 00:13

A COUNCILLOR from North East Lincolnshire Council has today become the first Labour representative to defect to UKIP.

Jane Bramley has crossed the floor and will now be sitting as a UKIP councillor for the South Ward in Grimsby.

Announcing her defection today she explained that the "final straw that broke the camel's back" was having to vote as dictated by the Labour Whip. (S).

[FnG]magnolia · 25 May 2013 at 00:18

deanolfc said:
A COUNCILLOR from North East Lincolnshire Council has today become the first Labour representative to defect to UKIP.

Jane Bramley has crossed the floor and will now be sitting as a UKIP councillor for the South Ward in Grimsby.

Announcing her defection today she explained that the "final straw that broke the camel's back" was having to vote as dictated by the Labour Whip. (S).

Are you a news feed or do you have an opinion on this because that is one of the worst 'effort required' posts I've seen in a long while (and I make many of them so that's your gauge right there).

MANFACE · 27 Jun 2013 at 13:11

You may think that UKIP are a danger to the conservatives, in a way they are, but here in Wales, Labour are petrified of them.

I cannot go into too much detail, but Labour and the unions have been playing some dirty tricks down here already.

Welsh Labour voters here, are getting pretty cheesed off with the party. They will never vote Tory, will not vote the Lib Dems or the BNP.

But the general conscious, and in discussion with people here, is that a lot of them will vote UKIP.

pingwing · 27 Jun 2013 at 13:42

That's a lot of hearsay and conjecture to dig up a thread like this, lacks any credible source or information at all, much like UKIP them selves.

At least it entertains the idea that UKIP have non-English backing in the UK, the whole UKIP front to me is a bit anti-local identity anyway...