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Nvidia pricing is a joke?

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The joke is the way in which reviewers have justified the 780 price.

'It offers within xx percent of titan performance for ~£300 less! Gold award!'

Excuse me? Has the titan suddenly become relevant to normal pricing? Why not measure the 780 against the 680?
 
OptimaLnrg said:
The joke is the way in which reviewers have justified the 780 price.

'It offers within xx percent of titan performance for ~£300 less! Gold award!'

Excuse me? Has the titan suddenly become relevant to normal pricing? Why not measure the 780 against the 680?
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or against the 7970 for pricing....
 
Not even measure against the 680. New gen are supposed to replace old gen prices as it always have - offering more performance per/£. Watch when the 770 comes out at ~£450+ and people be screaming at how its an amazing deal, being so close to the 780 but ~£100 less even though its priced at what's normally considered flagship cards. Oh wells.
 
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Gregster said:
  • Neither the 780 or Titan is a compulsory/needed purchase to play games
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However, there's no single AMD GPU at stock that can max all games comfortably at 1080p.

I run my 7970 at 1000MHZ and if I max Tomb Raider 4x SA and TressFX it's pretty awful.

Sleeping Dogs? That's pretty awful at maximum AA.

Crysis 3? Going to be the same there.

Witcher 2? Going to be the same there.

I bet the extra 30% of the titan or whatever it is will be just good enough to make it comfortable, and that extra 30% should be available at reasonable price points now given we're 18 months from the 7970's debut.

Nvidia/AMD are artificially pushing people towards consoles with their pricing to be honest.
 
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Surely a 7970 with a tidy OC can run games maxed? Even a Titan will struggle with Crysis 3 with full details.
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Well Tomb Raider fully maxed at 1920x1080 at 1GHZ can run like ~30FPS most of the time.
1.2GHZ is only going to make it ~36 at the very best if you assume 100% scaling.

Which isn't all that to be honest.

And OC'ing shouldn't really come into it, it's not a given, and overclockers are in the minority.
 
I wish the 780 was cheaper but I wouldn't say it's unaffordable, just my wages are higher than my living expenses right now and I used all of this months disposable income on having one. I think the cooler on the 780 is literally the best thing about it- really quiet and the throttling of clocks in less intensive games is really clever. That nvidia experience app is great because it basically sets up the games for you - I mean who knew not to ever use motion blur on any game ever to make huge differences? I look forward to getting another superclocked evga 780 next month just because it'll be even faster for metro 2033 which I play a lot and because I know they all overclock to 1100mhz+ which is titan territory. Ages ago I said one day I'll have the latest and greatest gpu and now I do, one day I'll have a Rolex, still working on that one!

Just to be clear - 1 of these heavily overclocked to 1137mhz boost and 6600mhz ram is NOT enough for some games at 60fps at maximum settings at 1600p.
 
In my understanding Intel priced Sandybridge quite keenly as a tactical move for AMD's upcoming Bulldozer cpus.

I was hoping that the rumours of AMD's 89xx series being incredible would mean that Nvidia would price their 700 series lower to do the same strategic move

Shame that didnt happen...
 
Thing is, AMD's next gen seems all over the place.
AMD can't bring out this uber card on 28nm, Nvidia would also know when 20nm cards can be launched, so why would they launch a 28nm generation if AMD could launch a 20nm beast anytime soon?

And AMD are a bunch of prats in their own right anyway.
It's been 18 months and good times for AMD GPU's, where the hell is the follow on? They literally twiddle their thumbs at the first sign of success.
They did it with the 5XXX.
In the lead for months, the GTX480 comes out, and then Nvidia get the 580 before AMD can launch the 6970, which was of course slower than the GTX580, but pretty nicely priced.
 
Martini1991 said:
Thing is, AMD's next gen seems all over the place.
AMD can't bring out this uber card on 28nm, Nvidia would also know when 20nm cards can be launched, so why would they launch a 28nm generation if AMD could launch a 20nm beast anytime soon?

And AMD are a bunch of prats in their own right anyway.
It's been 18 months and good times for AMD GPU's, where the hell is the follow on? They literally twiddle their thumbs at the first sign of success.
They did it with the 5XXX.
In the lead for months, the GTX480 comes out, and then Nvidia get the 580 before AMD can launch the 6970, which was of course slower than the GTX580, but pretty nicely priced.
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RUMOURS say VI is ready and they are sitting on it.
 
Harlequin said:
or waiting for the GTX7XX series to come and see what they are up against

rebrand the 7970 as the 8870 and bring out the 8970 as VI
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I love optimism.

It's almost never the reality.
It's always "But they could do this, and that, and this and a bit of that" and then the reality 9 out of times times is "Oh, they've just done that".
 
Martini1991 said:
Thing is, AMD's next gen seems all over the place.
AMD can't bring out this uber card on 28nm, Nvidia would also know when 20nm cards can be launched, so why would they launch a 28nm generation if AMD could launch a 20nm beast anytime soon?

And AMD are a bunch of prats in their own right anyway.
It's been 18 months and good times for AMD GPU's, where the hell is the follow on? They literally twiddle their thumbs at the first sign of success.
They did it with the 5XXX.
In the lead for months, the GTX480 comes out, and then Nvidia get the 580 before AMD can launch the 6970, which was of course slower than the GTX580, but pretty nicely priced.
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Very good point about AMD. They have won over many Nvidia fans with the 7 series and should be capitalising on this success. No noise about the 9 series from AMD is disappointing.
 
To be fair, they've done it with APU's as well.
Richland is a rather meagre performance improvement, the APU they've produced for the PS4 is much more interesting.

Iris could be stupidly close to the IGP in Richland if rumours are to believed.
Even if it's not, HD4600 is a bigger improvement over HD4000 than Richland is to Trinity, and we know that HD4600 is GT2 and GT3 is going to be a fair bit faster.

Must be careful with my AMD bashing, I'll get called a fanboy, so I'll curb it now :p
 
I used to buy the top of range card every time I upgraded, usually every 18-24 months.

With the way prices are now that's simply not an option. Currently I'd probably buy another card for SLi if i felt I needed more power in the next 2 years.

In my case nVidia are losing out on my money, but firms have pretty powerful sales analytical tools and I can assume that this level is their revenue-maximising point for the cards. I do feel that they're taking full advantage of the relative weakness of AMD at the moment, as are Intel in the CPU field.
 
Gregster said:
Very good point about AMD. They have won over many Nvidia fans with the 7 series and should be capitalising on this success. No noise about the 9 series from AMD is disappointing.
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Maybe theyre keeping things quiet cause theyre finishing up work on their own titan which is coming out next month.
 
I don't understand the AMD weakness part of your post.
AMD have the fastest card on the planet out in the form of the 7990.
They're as capable as Nvidia in the GPU field.

BluD said:
Maybe theyre keeping things quiet cause theyre finishing up work on their own titan which is coming out next month.
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Pushing more people towards consoles? This 550/800 pound GPU top end lark is only hurting the PC domain.

Does anyone remember the 2,300 something shader 79XX on Sapphire tech sheet shortly after the 7970's launch?

If AMD does bring out aother 28nm generation, I wouldn't be surprised to see it.
 
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Martini1991 said:
I don't understand the AMD weakness part of your post.
AMD have the fastest card on the planet out in the form of the 7990.
They're as capable as Nvidia in the GPU field.



Pushing more people towards consoles? This 550/800 pound GPU top end lark is only hurting the PC domain.

Does anyone remember the 2,300 something shader 79XX on Sapphire tech sheet shortly after the 7970's launch?

If AMD does bring out aother 28nm generation, I wouldn't be surprised to see it.
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Edit: Ignore
 
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