just read an article on it and it says with the extra shaders it will only be a 12.5% improvement over the stock 7970? Unless i read wrong..
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just read an article on it and it says with the extra shaders it will only be a 12.5% improvement over the stock 7970? Unless i read wrong..
I really hope AMD do bring something out to the field and price it much much lower to undercut nvidia. It would make a lot of people happy haha and thus stop these pricing arguments.
I mean who would love a 8970 or something that was priced at sub £400 but performed equally as well as a 780?
Ok i'll quit dreaming now
I mean who would love a 8970 or something that was priced at sub £400 but performed equally as well as a 780?
Ok i'll quit dreaming now
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Closer to 15%, then you bump up the clock speeds etc and a few other things, and you've got a card close to the GTX780.
Like I say, if AMD do another 28nm generation, I wouldn't be surprised to see that as it.
Or they go straight to 20NM and kill Nvidia in performance out right, but then I don't buy Nvidia twiddling their thumbs on 28nm.
Like I say, if AMD do another 28nm generation, I wouldn't be surprised to see that as it.
Or they go straight to 20NM and kill Nvidia in performance out right, but then I don't buy Nvidia twiddling their thumbs on 28nm.
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If this is true and course we're only speculating here then we may have a new AMD card sooner than later to equalise the market and pricing abit.
Although i doubt nvidia will budge the prices otherwise they would be giving the middle finger to all those that have already purchased the cards lol
TSMC`s 20NM equipment isn't even on stream - your looking end of 2013 before they can ramp it to commercial volumes.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/..._Is_Ahead_of_Its_Own_20nm_Roadmap_Report.html
VI will be 28NM
and if you want to play `biggest epeen` AMD have the fastest single card solution anyway with the 7990. (although argueably its neck and neck with a GTX 690 - both of which are faster than titan , cost is similar and you have the CF/SLI issues as well)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/..._Is_Ahead_of_Its_Own_20nm_Roadmap_Report.html
VI will be 28NM
and if you want to play `biggest epeen` AMD have the fastest single card solution anyway with the 7990. (although argueably its neck and neck with a GTX 690 - both of which are faster than titan , cost is similar and you have the CF/SLI issues as well)
I completely agree about AMD's lack of urgency.
Right now is the time to make new GPU announcements, if not put a few refreshes of their own on the market.
Instead they will just sit in silence and let Nvidia take another large chunk of their market share.
Right now is the time to make new GPU announcements, if not put a few refreshes of their own on the market.
Instead they will just sit in silence and let Nvidia take another large chunk of their market share.
There's been a lot of reductions in prices though with AMD cards not to mention the huge game bundles that come with them which make them even cheaper to buy once you've sold off the games!
Would love to hear from sometime soon even if just to stir up the market and to get people abit wet, it's more than enough! A little hope is better than no hope i say.
That middle finger has already been shown with the 780 release
True but it's nvidia so they could easily do it twice and people would still buy from them again
. I'm kidding, they wouldn't it would be the worst business decision to make ever.. period.True but it's nvidia so they could easily do it twice and people would still buy from them again
Totally agree
Once bitten twice shy
Price reductions and deals only go so far. the HD 7000 series has been around for a year and a half.
With all the mindless talk of AMD's immanent bankruptcy many believe they have now come to end of the road, there is nothing more, and with them not saying anything just exacerbates the idea that they are now just waiting to fold up.
Sometimes I believe that myself.
AMD and Nvidia are in competition with eachother, why is it that only Nvidia show any fight with AMD completely invisible and irrelevant.
With all the mindless talk of AMD's immanent bankruptcy many believe they have now come to end of the road, there is nothing more, and with them not saying anything just exacerbates the idea that they are now just waiting to fold up.
Sometimes I believe that myself.
AMD and Nvidia are in competition with eachother, why is it that only Nvidia show any fight with AMD completely invisible and irrelevant.
Maybe its because they're tied up with other projects and business ventures? We all know they're going into consoles in some way or form and they're going hard into laptops with their apu's performing fairly well against intel stuff. I'm not sure how they are in the mobile and tablet market but im sure the APU could make a fairly good impact there too.
So why even bother with a small niche market that is for us enthusiast users?
There is more money to be made elsewhere
Its actually quite true, AMD have (Historically) had more issues with drivers/etc than Nvidia and thus have acquired a rep for it despite things being much better these days (much better not equalling perfect of course, recently an issue with the HD7900 drivers that went unfixed for a year saw a lot of us forced to move to GTX600
)The problem with that though is that their cards have already been refreshed, they released the HD7970 Ghz and HD7950 Boost to combat the GTX680 and GTX660Ti launches. So they can't exactly release factory over clocked versions of already factory over clocked cards.
The HD7970 Ghz is not a refresh its simply a clock up.
True but it's nvidia so they could easily do it twice and people would still buy from them again
It happened before. Nvidia dropped the price of GTX 280 from $649 to $499 shortly after launch to make it a bit more competitive against Radeon 4800.
the 7xxx series was released against the GTX 5xx series
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/12/22/amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review/5
1 review as an example
then 3 1/2 months later the GTX 680 came out
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/03/22/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-2gb-review/9
so instead of releasing a new product in December - we get a speed bump in june/july.
so in theory its been 11 months for a ` new` product (in the same way the GTX 770 will be a `new` product)
I think we`ll see something from AMD this summer.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2011/12/22/amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review/5
1 review as an example
then 3 1/2 months later the GTX 680 came out
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/03/22/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-2gb-review/9
so instead of releasing a new product in December - we get a speed bump in june/july.
so in theory its been 11 months for a ` new` product (in the same way the GTX 770 will be a `new` product)
I think we`ll see something from AMD this summer.
It doesn't take AMD's entire staff to put out a few press releases, publish a few roadmaps.
If they have a future plan, if they have a roadmap, then they have these things to hand, so how much work is it to pick up the phone and send out some stuff, make a few statements? this is why people say there is nothing.
That is a refresh ^^ you may be getting confused as the GT770/760Ti are both refreshes and re-brands at the same time. And actually the 7970GE wasn't just a clock up, they raised clocks and implemented a clone of Nvidia's boost clock tech.
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