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lol - Intel have not doing anything wrong - they've designed a chip to be as it should be

ok there is a slight argument on the 'k varients - but in reality if your market of serious overclockers (those than 4.6 is "not enough") - is small (what % I don't know) - why would you make your product at extra cost just to satisfy that population of people ?

anyway - we still don't even know if its technically possible to solder on these anyway - there maybe a process/manufacturing reason why they are - as they are

we are all assuming its due to cost

is there any 22nm Intel chip that uses Soldered on case ?
 
I finished the pc I was building earlier and it passed OCCT 30 min test with a max temp of 94.c.

If I placed my hand at the back of the case at the exhaust fan the air feels cool coming out. If I do the same with my 2500k system also at 4.6Ghz the air feels warm even though it never goes above 75.c.

Intel really should sort this out or stop selling chips with overclocking abilities as 94.c on a moderate overclock with one of the best air coolers is just a joke.
 
A lot of people are delidding the CPU and adding their own contact material. I'm surprised that intel went this way after saying that haswell was going to be "an overclocker's dream" I don't see where that is coming from now.
 
Intel reported that from Ivy-Bridge onwards all their new processors will have this cheap TIM paste instead of the usual flux-free solder, also they are moving more and more stuff onto the CPU like Memory Controller, Graphics, Video Encoder etc - seems every other 'generation' see's something moved from the motherboard and onto the cpu....this also makes it run hotter, Intel have also said the 3d Tri-Gate Transistors run hot at load because of the extra surface area involved - Intel are now more focussed on 'low power' designs rather than 'performance' for the mobile market (Ultrabooks etc) saying (in so many words) that current chips have all the performance you need ...pffft!!

this is a window for AMD to sneak it with a decent chip design and put some more competition into it and make intel change their minds about a lot of stuff...

IMO I think Sandy-Bridge and Sandy-Bridge-E are THE chips to get if your serious about overclocking (and dont want to de-lid your CPU), you can get 5Ghz 'on air' on some SB chips and with water you can do better (they say theres a 10-15% performance gain from SB to HW but benchmarks ive seen beg to differ...more like 2-3%)
 
MOOGLEYS said:
Warm.

The overclock is 4.6Ghz not 4.5Ghz but it is not stable at 1.25v running OCCT this morning it blue screened a couple of times. It's needing 1.32v to be stable at 4.6Ghz but it is then down clocking as it is hitting it's thermal limit with the temps jumping over 100.c at times.

It seems these chips are really poorly made and worse than Ivy chips or this one is anyway. A D14 should easily be able to cope so it must be the heatspreader thermal paste issue again.

I have a borrowed 2700k in my system which at 4.6Ghz is only just reaching 70.c under the same tests.

I'm not delidding a brand new cpu so it's going back to be swapped for another that hopefully will give better results.
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Good job I never order it as I knew Haswell heat is lots worse than Ivybridge. Intel doesn't want you to overclock it but try to shortern lifespan and putting too much heat will mean more money for Intel when the Haswell lifespan come to end quickly. The K unlocked is very crafty, same TIM, no difference but paying more for very poor overclocking.

Haswell K - Custom Watercooling only in my mind
 
heres an interesting page from bit-tech review

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/7

note 4770k @ 4.7 vs the 2600k @ 5

in Cinebench the 4770k was still 4.5% quicker even though at lower clock

the telling part is the last graph on that page - power consumption at load at those overclocks ... 110w less for the 4770k - thats a HUGE amount, thats both a big chunk less electricity- and 110w less heat being pumped into your case :)
 
not really - but maybe if you are using a small form factor :) which seems quite the trend these days

really though - it just goes to show 5gig is mostly just a show-off number, you could have a lower clocked Haswell, which is just as fast, uses less electricity, and gives off less heat :) whats not to like ?
 
The low power consumption of the latest gen cpu's is extremely impressive. My previous i7 920 @4.2ghz with sli gtx 470's was showing a draw at the wall of 630w in game. Current 3570k with sli 670's is only showing a draw of 430w. Heat in the case isnt a problem either tbh. Despite the fact that im using two non reference "heat dumper" cards, and the shinobi xl case has virtually zero front air intake.
 
MOOGLEYS said:
I finished the pc I was building earlier and it passed OCCT 30 min test with a max temp of 94.c.

If I placed my hand at the back of the case at the exhaust fan the air feels cool coming out. If I do the same with my 2500k system also at 4.6Ghz the air feels warm even though it never goes above 75.c.

Intel really should sort this out or stop selling chips with overclocking abilities as 94.c on a moderate overclock with one of the best air coolers is just a joke.
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You not tempted to delid?
 
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