Because either the surplus or time is insufficient. Calories In < Calories Out works every time, thermodynamics do you even do it?
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Because either the surplus or time is insufficient. Calories In < Calories Out works every time, thermodynamics do you even do it?
Well apparently eating right is complicated and hard to do for these people. Which is why such a ridiculously simplistic solution is silly.
Ive never said it didnt work
. I said it was far too simplistic and that there is a huge difference between losing weight and losing fat.Yes, it's hard for some people.
The solution remains the same.
Trying to find a way to avoid the solution because it's hard is a completely broken way of looking at it.
I dont get this...so because i think someones suggestion is too simplistic and more needs to be done, somehow im suggesting avoiding it? How does that work?
Im suggesting that MORE need be done. That fatties need to be educated and trained properly. That they need to be motivated and pushed, given help and guidance.
Where do you get the idea that because i think a childish one liner solution is too simple, i think people shouldnt even bother trying? I dont get it.
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Anyone with an IQ above 3 would a diet with 90% of the calories coming from carbs is a bad idea. You're making up ridiculous scenarios to try and prove a non existent point.
really? surely anyone with an IQ above 3 would know that getting to morbid obesity levels is a bad idea..and yet......it happens.....and guess what? their IQ is above 3
I'm not saying that this is what you're advocating, but some people over complicate the issue as a method of avoiding it.
Education is critical, and there are far too many inaccuracies in nutritional "common knowledge". But beyond that I really think it's down to the individual to get the job done.
Education is critical, and there are far too many inaccuracies in nutritional "common knowledge". But beyond that I really think it's down to the individual to get the job done.
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really? surely anyone with an IQ above 3 would know that getting to morbid obesity levels is a bad idea..and yet......it happens.....and guess what? their IQ is above 3
Are you managing to keep a straight face while posting about that being a quality comparison?
If you are i commend it.It is, youre right..but in many cases they dont have the tools and need help. I dont mean surgical, but actual training and motivational help..even psychological help in some cases.
That's akin to saying that stopping war is simple, just don't fight. Inane at it's best.
I dare say what you've explained is pretty much fits in with calories in vs calories out.
You get hungry after eating bread, thus you eat more, thus taking in more calories. It's pretty easy for someone with a calories in vs calories out mindset to realise certain foods have certain effects on their body.
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Rubbish and you still don't get it, why do I feel hungry after eating grains?
Wy do you think a normal diet on high carb low fat, is doomed to fail even when calorie counting.
Can't you not see how your post is silly.
How is the mindset wrong in taht example? It's not to do with the mindset, is to do with the food. How do you think you can stick to a calorie deficit when you are constantly hungry? It's just simply not going to happen. That's why calorie in calorie out is far to simply and won't just work, as you will fail without sorting the issues out.
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By not being so weak minded. The same weak mind that gets people obese in the first place.
More garbage and why nearly everyone fails. It's very little to do with mindset.
How about chnage your diet so you have a claorie deficit and don't feel hungry as you arent ***** up your natural biological responses.
This is the big issue, you all think you have a clue, but you really are clueless and rather than helping anyone, the advice you would give them would only trap them in further.
Go back to my earlier post about will power, will power doesn't realy exist and trying to say people should get it, doesn't help, doesn't solve the actual probablem and is in no way helpful.
It's that simple !! You should be a Doctor !!
It's not that simple
A) due to advice, media and most of the people in this thread
b) everyone responds differently and has different mental issues, physical addictions etc.
But it could be a lot easier than it currently is, if people stopped sprouting the same old rubbish that is proved not to work well.
Yeah I know lets just ignore the biological process and feel hungry for the rest of your life. It's just will power you need. Yeah that sounds like the right way doesn't it.
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Go on then, spec me a diet for a calorie deficit (~2300 calories total, with high protein) that wont leave me feeling hungry. Good luck with that
You wanna know why i think i have a clue? Because i do have a clue. I've spent the past 2-3 years toying with my diet to find out what works for me from a gaining weight perspective, and now from a fat loss perspective (we'll see in a few weeks the results of that, it's new to me but i have a pretty good idea what i'm doing, feel free to subscribe to my training log to keep yourself updated
) not to mention being surrounded by individuals who are extremely knowledgeable on the subject.A) 15 minutes of research for anyone interested in actually making a difference to their life could find out more correct information
B) Excuses that affect a tiny minority of people.
Yes it does actually. Hungry for the rest of your life? What the **** are you on about? You do it while you want to lose weight, then go back to a balanced and sustainable diet that is correct for the individual.
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We are all individual fella. The mistake you have made is assuming we are all the same. Outsides of a computer forum, we all think differently. That is the beauty of life my friend.